2020 Toyota Supra getting a CX Racing 2JZ engine swap kit
#1
2020 Toyota Supra getting a CX Racing 2JZ engine swap kit
The new Supra's chief engineer, Tetsuya Tada, already advised anyone planning such a swap to "please buy the four-cylinder. It will be cheaper." What's surprising is that the kit is being advertised before the Supra's even gone on sale, and it's coming from CX Racing. The tuning firm offers a long list of equipment, but it might be most known for selling turbochargers and plumbing on eBay.
The company might also have been surprised by response to the 2JZ swap kit announcement. When CX Racing posted a render of a blue Supra with a blue-hued 2JZ dropped perfectly in the forward bay, naysayers streamed down from the hills. The primary gripe was that the B58, an engine only in production since 2015, hasn't been tuned to its limits, so why "swap in a heavier less efficient engine for the sake of nostalgia?" No one knew the B58 had so many defenders. We won't get the four-cylinder Supra in the U.S., so swaps will put more B58s on the market for those who covet their potential.
True, the B58 is a strong engine, with an aluminum block, closed deck, and forged rods, piston and cranks. But it's a modular engine designed with compromises that could make extreme tunes more difficult and expensive, like having its air-to-water intercooler integrated into the intake manifold. Meanwhile, the iron-block, closed-deck, twin-turbo 2JZ-GTE was so thoroughly over-engineered from its 321 hp that 600-hp tunes didn't phase it. Some say Toyota planned to give the MkIV 600 hp from the factory. Even if that's not true, teardowns show the carmaker made the engine stout enough to handle 900 hp without opening the block or cratering reliability. Shigeki Tomoyama, president of Toyota's Gazoo Racing division, drives a 600-hp carbon-bodied MkIV Supra to work.
Never mind all that, though. Logic doesn't guide engine swaps. Dreams, nostalgia, budgets, and time do. And everyone knows this swap is going to happen sooner rather than later. CX Racing says it's taking pre-orders now. In their rendering, we see they added a MkIV wing to the 2020 Supra. Perhaps they've also sorted out the changes and equipment necessary to install the MkIV's R154 six-speed manual gearbox, too.
The company might also have been surprised by response to the 2JZ swap kit announcement. When CX Racing posted a render of a blue Supra with a blue-hued 2JZ dropped perfectly in the forward bay, naysayers streamed down from the hills. The primary gripe was that the B58, an engine only in production since 2015, hasn't been tuned to its limits, so why "swap in a heavier less efficient engine for the sake of nostalgia?" No one knew the B58 had so many defenders. We won't get the four-cylinder Supra in the U.S., so swaps will put more B58s on the market for those who covet their potential.
True, the B58 is a strong engine, with an aluminum block, closed deck, and forged rods, piston and cranks. But it's a modular engine designed with compromises that could make extreme tunes more difficult and expensive, like having its air-to-water intercooler integrated into the intake manifold. Meanwhile, the iron-block, closed-deck, twin-turbo 2JZ-GTE was so thoroughly over-engineered from its 321 hp that 600-hp tunes didn't phase it. Some say Toyota planned to give the MkIV 600 hp from the factory. Even if that's not true, teardowns show the carmaker made the engine stout enough to handle 900 hp without opening the block or cratering reliability. Shigeki Tomoyama, president of Toyota's Gazoo Racing division, drives a 600-hp carbon-bodied MkIV Supra to work.
Never mind all that, though. Logic doesn't guide engine swaps. Dreams, nostalgia, budgets, and time do. And everyone knows this swap is going to happen sooner rather than later. CX Racing says it's taking pre-orders now. In their rendering, we see they added a MkIV wing to the 2020 Supra. Perhaps they've also sorted out the changes and equipment necessary to install the MkIV's R154 six-speed manual gearbox, too.
#4
Glad to see this option being brought out by the market. But it will add 80 lbs on the nose vs the B58 would it not? Obviously suspension tuning can account for that but you do have a mod that's not going to completely make for a 50/50 front/rear weight distribution. Of course 600 easy-peasy hp is going to beat 335 - 380 hp. Maybe there will be an eventual test of the two Supras.
The B58 comes in at 427 lbs vs the 2JZ-GTE at 507 lbs from what I can determine.
The B58 comes in at 427 lbs vs the 2JZ-GTE at 507 lbs from what I can determine.
#5
Buying a $50K car to swap in a motor that won't meet any emissions standards in most places makes no sense. I'm a 2jzgte fan obviously with pushing close to mid 8's on mine in the Supra. Swap will probably run another $25K to make everything work like factory so that's $75K in at that point. I guess it would be a good marketing tool for CX racing but I couldn't see a regular person buying one to swap it. I believe the aftermarket will push the limits of the B58 shortly after release simply because of the Supra name. Trans is rated to 770TQ on paper that's not bad no idea on the motor though. I would rather find out the limits of the stock setup than swap in a 2jz just to be cool.
#6
Originally Posted by plex
Buying a $50K car to swap in a motor that won't meet any emissions standards in most places makes no sense. I'm a 2jzgte fan obviously with pushing close to mid 8's on mine in the Supra. Swap will probably run another $25K to make everything work like factory so that's $75K in at that point. I guess it would be a good marketing tool for CX racing but I couldn't see a regular person buying one to swap it. I believe the aftermarket will push the limits of the B58 shortly after release simply because of the Supra name. Trans is rated to 770TQ on paper that's not bad no idea on the motor though. I would rather find out the limits of the stock setup than swap in a 2jz just to be cool.
#7
Autoblog jumped on this news since the image above was stolen by CXracing from a designer on IG and ran with it
It was discussed on supramkv.com forum and also
https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-cul...velopment-yet/
It was discussed on supramkv.com forum and also
https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-cul...velopment-yet/
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#9
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