My ES is my first car to have a sunroof; but if I had the choice, I would not have one. But since it does have one, I will try to use it for ventilation purposes, if I have passengers in the car, rather than open my driver-side window (opening my window gives me ventilation but little ventilation to my passengers).

That was my thought also. I have had no problem with my sunroof but heard many stories of problems with aftermarket, cut-a-hole-in-the-roof options when they were popular 20 or 30 years ago.

No automaker is going to offer a sunroof merely by taking a car off the line and cutting a hole in the roof. The sunroof will be well-designed and the roof strengthened so that the sunroof will not rattle nor leak.

 

I must be honest, when I have the roof open in my 4Runner, the thought does cross my mind that the roof may not close. It’s now in its 16 year on the road and it is a bit of a worry.

Last year, I did have a clogged water release, the floor was damp as apparently the roof has an escape route, some water can get in which drips through and escapes down the A pillar frame on the drivers side.

 

i prefer not to have one.

it's just another source of rattles. my es300 moonroof rattles like crazy.
I'm not sure if it's because the gasket is old or something.

 

Fair point... but at least we can agree that neither of us want a sunroof given the option.

i’ve only used it on the g90 once to see if it worked and if anything was unique about it (no).

 

To be honest, though, my guess is that you sunroof will be at least reasonably reliable over the years. In some areas (and I've posted on this before) the Koreans, particularly Genesis, set the standard for using solid, well-built hardware in almost any vehicle less than a six-figure price. But not every vehicle comes from the factory like the way the typical Genesis product does. On some vehicles, the glass in the sunroof has been shattering with little or no warning....even, on occasion, in some Hyundais.

BTW, in the Florida climate you are in, I can understand not using it much. For most of the long summer, (and even in some other seasons), open it up, and you let in either extreme heat/humidity or thunderstorms.....not the most appetizing of choices. That's also one reason why virtually-standard air-conditioning, in many vehicles, replaced the old swing-open vent-windows decades ago.

I'm not just dissing Florida, BTW. Though somewhat shorter in length than in Florida, our own D.C. summers can also be miserable......in June, July, and early August, Washington is often hotter than Miami (and almost as humid), with frequent storms. Many tourists have never endured the kind of summers we get.....they come here to see the sights, and are absolutely shocked at the heat-indices here. The Park Police often set up aid stations on the Mall, during the summer, to deal with the inevitable cases of heat-exhaustion. Years ago, before the advent of A/C (the Capitol was the first major building in the country to get it), Congress took an annual, month-long August recess for a reason.

 

Yes. She drives an Acura MDX with sun roof open all the time when weather permits.

 

Except for one of my cars I always seem to only find examples of any model with the other options I want with a moonroof. I always much prefer the same car with the same options with NO moonroof. It's just more to break or leak later on and I never use them.

It's still not really a deal-breaker for me but since it's often a standard extra feature that I never want anyway I actually would be inclined at this point to try hard to get the model and options I want special ordered without a moonroof for once.

To me it's just a bit annoying that it always seems to be a standard feature like it or not. Also the standard moonroof trend seems to be a more prevalent in the U.S. than in other world markets.

 

There is nothing special about Hyundai/Genesis and their so called solid hardware, they have issues like any other manufacturer.


https://genesisowners.com/genesis-fo...lt-down.19962/


https://genesisowners.com/genesis-fo...f-issue.25745/

 

I prefer a sunroof. I keep it closed most of the time except in the winter when we can usually get by without A/C. Also, with our hot summers in Florida, when my car is parked outside in the heat, I drop the windows & open the sunroof which allows the hot air to escape. I've had it programmed to not open the sunroof but doesn't work as well getting rid of the heat as with it open. This actually works better than having remote start to cool the car off here, as the A/C is working against temperatures well in excess of 100 degrees if the windows are left up. Also the dogs like it!

 

If you are taller than 6'5" at least in the old days you'd be trying to get a car without. Between drains getting clogged, not shutting or sealing properly, shattering, etc., imho nobody is missing anything who doesn't have one. Knock on wood I always wondered what happens if by accident it opens and is left open. I think sports cars are nicer without.

 

In anything more than 2 doors, it better have a sunroof. Nothing better than open air driving when possible.

 

not me, i don’t like the wind noise. and i don’t recall the last car i was in where you could actually use a sunroof without the windows being open because of horrible buffeting wind which hurts my ears.

 

While is is true that any manufacturer can have issues, IMO (and I look at a lot of new vehicles), the Koreans, in general, seem to use materials that have a heavier, more solid feel, and a more solid sound/feel to them while closing doors or using some of the interior parts. That is simply what my eyes, ears, and fingers/hands tell me......my opinion, not necessarily that of someone else.

And, I might add, Lincoln, on their latest vehicles, seems to be showing a huge improvement in the quality of some of their own materials they use, inside and out. Some of those materials, particularly on the dash and door panels, are even better, now, than what is found in Genesis products. Lincoln seems to be trying very hard to atone for past sins.

 

A sunroof or moon roof isn't a deal breaker for me. I've had crank type sunroofs and power operated moonroofs on cars for 35+ years with no issues on any of them. We rarely use them but it is nice on certain occasions to be able to open them up. The rest of the time they are left closed and nearly forgotten. It seems like all of the cars that I'm interested in these days have them.

 

I'm glad you don't have any problems. IMO a crank-sunroof is clearly preferable to the electric-motor type...less chance of it failing. I don't know of any American-market vehicles, though, that still have hand-cranks for the sunroofs. Years ago, manufacturers provided a small emergency crank that, if the motor failed, you stuck it into a specially-designed hole or slot and cranked it shut. I haven't seen those for some time, though.