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Old 06-06-19 | 02:38 PM
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I enjoy driving a sedan, but the utility of the Highlander for family duties is simply undeniable. If I had to give up one, it would be the GS that would have to go. The Highlander is just too useful to be without.
I agree. Newer crossovers handle like cars now anyways. You get the added utility. 4WD in some cases as well.
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I agree. Newer crossovers handle like cars now anyways. You get the added utility. 4WD in some cases as well.

A number of sedans offer AWD....among them, the Lacrosse.
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.among them, the Lacrosse.
Lacrosse was cancelled for North America.
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
Lacrosse was cancelled for North America.
You used the wrong icon.

Lacrosse was cancelled for North America.

I'll admit, though, that, even though it did offer AWD, there were few takers for that option. It negatively affected the Lacrosse's nice ride/handling, for one, by adding the extra unsprung weight in the AWD hardware.

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Originally Posted by mmarshall
You used the wrong icon.

Lacrosse was cancelled for North America.
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Hopefully this does not turn into a long Lacrosse discussion. While I do like the car, and it looks good. People stopped buying them, it was either because people rejected the car or they moved to cross overs. So lets move on from the Lacrosse?

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I'll admit, though, that, even though it did offer AWD, there were few takers for that option. It negatively affected the Lacrosse's nice ride/handling, for one, by adding that unsprung weight in the AWD hardware.
You complain about almost every car and the way it rides. Some people like a firmer riding vehicle.
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
Hopefully this does not turn into a long Lacrosse discussion.
No, it won't. At least not on my part.

You complain about almost every car and the way it rides. Some people like a firmer riding vehicle.
Not all firm rides are objectionable. I think you misunderstand me sometimes. You saw my comments on the new Silverado I sampled yesterday, didn't you? I stated that, if it were my choice, I'd choose it, over the F-150, for most local driving/hauling use, even though the F-150 has a somewhat smoother ride and is probably better-suited for long trips. The Silverado, though, has far better electric power-steering, a steel-vs. aluminum bed, a better-designed dash, and, even with the Bump-O-Matic ride, IMO, is generally a more pleasant truck to drive under local conditions,
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You saw my comments on the new Silverado I sampled yesterday, didn't you?,
No I did not. I did see some of the comments on plastics.
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
No I did not. I did see some of the comments on plastics.
No offense, then, but please read before commenting. In all honesty, I am sometimes guilty of that myself.
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
No offense, then, but please read before commenting. In all honesty, I am sometimes guilty of that myself.
Its all good. It’s not just your reviews. I sometime skim or don’t read the original posts. But I pick up the comments somewhere along the way and try to participate. But to the Silverado, I do like the GM trucks. I agree with others that the plastics are crappy. But trucks are made for work. So it is what it is.

But we are off topic.
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
But to the Silverado, I do like the GM trucks. I agree with others that the plastics are crappy. But trucks are made for work. So it is what it is.
The GMC Sierra, which is essentially an upscale Silverado, does a little better job inside on the interior, unless you really go for the top-of-the-line Silverado High-Country, with an interior that competes with the F-150 King Ranch and Ram Longhorn. And, even then, the Sierra includes a Denali version. But we're not going to be buying a truck like that to haul peat moss or old furniture that people leave out by the dumpsters.
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
The GMC Sierra, which is essentially an upscale Silverado, does a little better job inside on the interior, unless you really go for the top-of-the-line Silverado High-Country, with an interior that competes with the F-150 King Ranch and Ram Longhorn. And, even then, the Sierra includes a Denali version. But we're not going to be buying a truck like that to haul peat moss or old furniture that people leave out by the dumpsters.
It was a good side discussion these trucks, But Let’s get back to topic.
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Originally Posted by LexBob2
Since my wife and I have been 65+ we've had two CUV's (Q5 and now an X3). Never had one before. Our other car though is a sedan (3 Series and now an A6).
Can you see a future with no sedans and just two CUVs?
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
It was a good side discussion these trucks, But Let’s get back to topic.

OK, sorry. I was maybe confusing the topic from the Silverado thread LOL.
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Originally Posted by mmarshall



....Ford and GM, are you listening?
No--not to 2 anonymous posts on an internet forum, they are not.
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
Can you see a future with no sedans and just two CUVs?

This may surprise you, but, in truth, I have no idea of what my actual automotive future will be. Yes, I rant a lot about big comfortable sedans and how addicted I (re)-became to them, having been way from them for so many years, between my college years and retirement. But, for example, I never figured on ever owning a Subaru...yet I had an Outback for almost 6 years, when I simply got tired of trying to navigate frozen roads with RWD. I never figured on owning a Lexus, yet had a bright-yellow IS300 for five years (that's when I joined CL). In my youth, I never figured on owning a small Japanese product, yet, some years later, after a string of new late-70s/early-80s Detroit lemons, that's exactly where I went....Mazda 323. In short, I have learned to never say never. There are even some SUVs I like, such as the GMC Acadia...but I'm leery of the Acadia's poor reliability.



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