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Old 01-23-21, 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
Well, with (as of now) only 250 versions of each being targeted for the U.S, like it or not, you will indeed be lucky to get one.
I’ll be surprised if they sell the 250 actually......
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Old 01-23-21, 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by RNM GS3
I’ll be surprised if they sell the 250 actually......

You can probably take it to the bank that they will sell.
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Old 01-24-21, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
You can probably take it to the bank that they will sell.
For sure. The CT5-V Blackwing in particular will sell all 250 preorders in a matter of hours, if not minutes. The CT4-V Blackwing may take a day or two.
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Old 01-25-21, 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by RNM GS3
Again you’re missing the point.
Cadillac is targeting these cars to who? Probably current owners of European brands like BMW.

Nobody cares about a launch edition of a vehicle that has no history or relevance - it’s worthless.

Their focus should be on attracting real buyers not on gimmicky marketing with a dumb plaque, enthusiast buyers see right through that. Also try dealing with Cadillac dealers to buy performance car - not great experience.
I disagree, I feel that Cadillac isn't really looking to "conquest" as much as they're looking to retain from a healthy number of existing Cadillac Former V owners. They don't need to pander to the German owners for this initial allotment. And the GM faithful will lap up the idea of the numbered Launch Edition vehicles.

Same way it doesn't matter that the Mustang Mach E may not "kill Tesla" and win over Tesla buyers or even win over current Mustang owners, they have tons of enthusiasm from existing Ford owners that I've seen first hand.
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Old 01-25-21, 10:58 AM
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If their goal is not to win new buyers then why create these cars in the first place?!
Previous gen CTS-V and ATS-V were sales disasters. I’m sure Cadillac wants greater success than only convert the few buyers that purchased the last gen cars lol

Again this is purely Marketing fail - they did amazing job with C8 launch and hopefully we see some exciting info when these cars launch in few days.

I’m all for performance sedans but have little faith in GM/Cadillac.
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Old 01-25-21, 08:40 PM
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I’m all for performance sedans but have little faith in GM/Cadillac.
You've made that pretty clear.
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Old 02-01-21, 06:49 PM
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CT-5 Blackwing will have 668-hp and 659 pound-feet of torque from supercharged 6.2-liter V-8 and come standard with 6-speed Manual.

I will give Cadillac credit for following through on these performance cars and especially the manual transmission. I’m sure it was a huge battle for the engineers to get these through especially when everything is going EV.
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Old 02-01-21, 07:10 PM
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I'd roll a CT5-V.......my wife would love it.....
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Old 02-01-21, 07:17 PM
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668hp my gosh. Well done Cadillac.
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Old 02-01-21, 07:34 PM
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As I thought, the CT5-V sold out preorders almost instantly, and is now on waitlist. The CT4-V is still available as of this post.
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Old 02-02-21, 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Felix
I'd roll a CT5-V.......my wife would love it.....
The one with the 6.2L? That's the CT5-V Blackwing. If you're ok with a 3.0TT 360hp / 405lbft then that's the CT5-V.

Cue the confusion, thanks Cadillac for diluting V.
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CT4-V Blackwing initial reservation list is also full now.
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I leased an ATS-V sedan for 24mos. Amazing driving car. Combined the acceleration of old LS1 camaro with the steering feel of my 2007 STI and had handling for days. Sublime steering, too.

The CT4 & CT5 BWs interiors improve on the ATS & CTS, too, with physical buttons and *****. I actually liked my Caddy's interior and infotainment system.

I can't get into a CT4-V BW or the CT5, this year, but if I can in the next couple years, I will gladly buy a CT4-V BW new. (yeah, the ATS-V was that good, IMO.)
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