2019 RAV4 vs NX
06-15-19, 12:09 PM
#16
Lexus Champion
Only $800 upcharge from the gas only version. If I was getting a RAV4, that's definitely what I'd want.
06-15-19, 12:11 PM
#17
Lexus Champion
I think more is concerned here than just price. There is also the big styling differences between the RAV-4 and NX, the level of dealer-service one can probably expect, insurance rates on the two of them, and a number of other factors, including not only what I posted earlier but also the comments rogerh00 made about the Lexus touch-interface pad.
06-15-19, 03:00 PM
#18
Depends on what you want.....and what your priorities are. IMO, the RAV-4 looks better on the outside than the NX and its in-your-face spindle-grille, but the base RAV-4 version has what is essentially a cardboard-level interior and somewhat flimsy trim materials. The upmarket RAV-4 models are nicer inside, but cost a lot more. The NX comes with a better warranty and Lexus-grade dealer-service, but, for the money, I wasn't impressed with its riding comfort, sand-insulation, or road manners....even the smaller, less-expensive UX rode more comfortably, but was cramped inside and had quirky, hard-to-use controls on the console. And I agree.....if interior space is a big issue, go with the RAV-4.
Do you find that the UX with the smallest rolling diameter wheel/tire combo and the lightest unsprung weight rides best?
The NX middle ground.
While the RX with the biggest rolling diameter wheel/tire combo with the highest unsprung weight has the bobbiest ride on impact with a bump?
Also helping the UX is that its Center of Gravity is not much higher than a regular hatch/sedan/wagon - with less pitching and rolling.
Yes, the UX rear is cramped, while the CH-R's rear compartment is both cramped and "claustrophobic".
I haven't been in new RAV4, but the outgoing RAV4 had a noisy engine.
06-15-19, 04:13 PM
#19
I think I agree.
Realistically, no one is going to be comparing a RAV4 LE vs an NX. Yes, the RAV4 Limited fully loaded is just under $40K, but if you comparably equip an NX, the NX still costs quite a bit more. My quick build of a non-hybrid non-FSport NX with packages to match a loaded RAV4 Limited come to $44K.
Realistically, no one is going to be comparing a RAV4 LE vs an NX. Yes, the RAV4 Limited fully loaded is just under $40K, but if you comparably equip an NX, the NX still costs quite a bit more. My quick build of a non-hybrid non-FSport NX with packages to match a loaded RAV4 Limited come to $44K.
For their price range, they can either get a 3 year old Lexus NX 300H certified from Lexus, or a 2019 RAV4 Hybrid. The only issue with the RAV4 is that is sold out. Personally I own both a RX and a GS. Have seen plenty of NX on our roads, but would never have considered the RAV4 before, as all the models until now has low quality interiors and the ride quality very 'entry-level' like (backwards from the ride quality of their Honda Accord). Now with long term reliability, I am not sure how this new engine will fair:
http://www.motorreviewer.com/engine.php?engine_id=127
The engine has even more complex design compared to the 2AR engine series. There are a lot of electronics, sensors and small parts as a potential failure. Hope, that Toyota still uses good quality components and precise assembly. We also can see what the laser-clad seats in the head are unremarkable, and the cast-in cylinder sleeves don’t have enough juice for a rebuild. That all has a bad influence on the reliability and limit the engine life. It is hard to believe what the most engines will go over 150,000-200,000 miles line.
06-15-19, 04:43 PM
#20
Lexus Fanatic
True.
Do you find that the UX with the smallest rolling diameter wheel/tire combo and the lightest unsprung weight rides best?
The NX middle ground.
While the RX with the biggest rolling diameter wheel/tire combo with the highest unsprung weight has the bobbiest ride on impact with a bump?
Do you find that the UX with the smallest rolling diameter wheel/tire combo and the lightest unsprung weight rides best?
The NX middle ground.
While the RX with the biggest rolling diameter wheel/tire combo with the highest unsprung weight has the bobbiest ride on impact with a bump?
Also helping the UX is that its Center of Gravity is not much higher than a regular hatch/sedan/wagon - with less pitching and rolling.
, the UX rear is cramped, while the CH-R's rear compartment is both cramped and "claustrophobic".
06-15-19, 05:20 PM
#21
Lexus Champion
If it’s a 3 year old NXh vs 2019 RAV4 Hybrid then it’s not even a question. RAV4 without a second thought.
06-15-19, 09:24 PM
#22
Lexus Fanatic
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http://www.motorreviewer.com/engine.php?engine_id=127
The engine has even more complex design compared to the 2AR engine series. There are a lot of electronics, sensors and small parts as a potential failure. Hope, that Toyota still uses good quality components and precise assembly. We also can see what the laser-clad seats in the head are unremarkable, and the cast-in cylinder sleeves don’t have enough juice for a rebuild. That all has a bad influence on the reliability and limit the engine life. It is hard to believe what the most engines will go over 150,000-200,000 miles line.
http://www.motorreviewer.com/engine.php?engine_id=127
The engine has even more complex design compared to the 2AR engine series. There are a lot of electronics, sensors and small parts as a potential failure. Hope, that Toyota still uses good quality components and precise assembly. We also can see what the laser-clad seats in the head are unremarkable, and the cast-in cylinder sleeves don’t have enough juice for a rebuild. That all has a bad influence on the reliability and limit the engine life. It is hard to believe what the most engines will go over 150,000-200,000 miles line.
06-15-19, 10:03 PM
#24
Lead Lap
new motors new electronics are always a concern. Toyota seems to be on the better side of things for the most part, but imho, if you intend to keep it past the powertrain warranty, just skip the first MY entirely, and pick it up later in MY2. Regardless of how amazing toyota engineering maybe, they are after humans.
06-15-19, 11:06 PM
#25
I too would choose a 2019 rav4 hybrid (XSE I think? the top level trim) over a 2019 NX. Im a 25 year old male. I think the Rav4 looks much nicer. Obviously may have more road noise, but for example, I like to camp and go on dirt trails. I feel the Rav4 would be nicer for that.
06-16-19, 05:04 AM
#26
Lexus Champion
Trying to shortlist for my in-laws they have had their Honda Accord for the past 10 years. So the next car they are going to own for a very long time. Economy and reliability is a big factor, so is ride comfort and easy to get into and out of.
For their price range, they can either get a 3 year old Lexus NX 300H certified from Lexus, or a 2019 RAV4 Hybrid. The only issue with the RAV4 is that is sold out. Personally I own both a RX and a GS. Have seen plenty of NX on our roads, but would never have considered the RAV4 before, as all the models until now has low quality interiors and the ride quality very 'entry-level' like (backwards from the ride quality of their Honda Accord). Now with long term reliability, I am not sure how this new engine will fair:
http://www.motorreviewer.com/engine.php?engine_id=127
The engine has even more complex design compared to the 2AR engine series. There are a lot of electronics, sensors and small parts as a potential failure. Hope, that Toyota still uses good quality components and precise assembly. We also can see what the laser-clad seats in the head are unremarkable, and the cast-in cylinder sleeves don’t have enough juice for a rebuild. That all has a bad influence on the reliability and limit the engine life. It is hard to believe what the most engines will go over 150,000-200,000 miles line.
For their price range, they can either get a 3 year old Lexus NX 300H certified from Lexus, or a 2019 RAV4 Hybrid. The only issue with the RAV4 is that is sold out. Personally I own both a RX and a GS. Have seen plenty of NX on our roads, but would never have considered the RAV4 before, as all the models until now has low quality interiors and the ride quality very 'entry-level' like (backwards from the ride quality of their Honda Accord). Now with long term reliability, I am not sure how this new engine will fair:
http://www.motorreviewer.com/engine.php?engine_id=127
The engine has even more complex design compared to the 2AR engine series. There are a lot of electronics, sensors and small parts as a potential failure. Hope, that Toyota still uses good quality components and precise assembly. We also can see what the laser-clad seats in the head are unremarkable, and the cast-in cylinder sleeves don’t have enough juice for a rebuild. That all has a bad influence on the reliability and limit the engine life. It is hard to believe what the most engines will go over 150,000-200,000 miles line.
06-16-19, 08:04 AM
#27
Lexus Fanatic
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the cr-v outsells ‘em all, for good reasons... for one i think its interior is the best in its class.
06-16-19, 08:22 AM
#28
Lexus Champion
06-16-19, 08:32 AM
#29
Lexus Champion
Don't get me wrong, the CR-V is solid. But no way is it "best". I didn't drive the RAV-4, so I can't give an assessment as to the CR-V interior compared to RAV-4.
And @JDR76 is right--RAV4 is the sales leader; not just in the class, but vs everything in the USA that's not a pickup truck.
06-16-19, 08:33 AM
#30
I believe in reference to actual retail sales, the CR-V does lead the Rav4, Rogue, etc., as Honda does not do fleet sales. Most Rav's & Rogue's around here are rentals - tons of them in Busch Gardens parking lot.