mmarshall

There may (?) just be some life left in Mitsubishi of America. Last week, in Car Chat, I did a rare MM write-up on a new Mitsubishi dealership that just opened up not far from me. Their dealerships have been closing at an astonishing rate.....this is the first new one I have seen open in years.

Have you seen or test-driven a new 2020 Explorer? They have not yet reached East Coast dealerships, but are on the way.

If you think Explorers are big and wasteful, you should see my next-door-neighbor's new Expedition. And he doesn't even have the extended, long-wheelbase model.

plex

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Saw a Telluride, looked nice, smaller than I thought but still a good size. I like new vehicles that come in ruffle the market/segment feathers some.

4TehNguyen

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with the 2020 highlander redesign, and new Telluride and Pallisade, I would be frightened if I was Honda. Pilot is outdated now

mmarshall

Seems like many people who look at the Telluride in person (including me) come to the same conclusion....it looks smaller in person than in images. If the aim of the stylists was to make it look larger, in ads, than it really is, they certainly succeeded.

situman

The 3.8 may not be new but at least, the Korean duo is giving people measurably more space. I'll take the extra space over that 1mpg difference in FE. The Hybrid is not carryover, but it is definitely a downgrade and I hope there will be a corresponding huge downgrade in the price as well relative to the current hybrid models.

situman

The more upright boxy design and the minimum rake of the tailgate window certainly helps with interior space utilization despite the smaller outward appearance. It certainly embarrasses the RXL and current Highlander's 3rd row usability.

SW17LS

Midsized sedans can't cary nearly as many people nor as much cargo as a 3 row crossover. No way in the world we would want to make do with a sedan as a family vehicle.

Toys4RJill

The 3.8 will be what holds people back. Out of the gate, less HP, less MPG, less tq but a large engine. This should of been a new engine for these models. I don't think Highlander has much to worry about. The two Hyundais do have a large cargo capacity which is good I guess

SW17LS

I doubt most buyers of a mainstream 3 row crossover really care about the engine. I know I don't, and I'm also a car enthusiast. The engine is very comparable with what else is out there in the class.

Telluride is selling very well already, I think the Highlander does indeed have something to worry about.

bitkahuna

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Don’t think so... from car & driver...



https://www.caranddriver.com/kia/telluride

7 seconds is fast enough.

Toys4RJill

It will matter when the fuel economy is average and the power ratings are lesser, and this is a brand new model. The size is an advantage however the new Highlander will be a bit smaller and will offer better driving dynamics. This is a good effort by Hyundai, could of been great if they came to market with a superior in-segment motor.

LeX2K

7.1 0-60 is certainly fast enough for most people but I can't help but look at the electric SUV offerings and think, 7.1 is downright slow.

Toys4RJill

Which is about the same for the Highlander (smaller engine, yet more power) which is in its final model year. The new Hyundai’s need to better than Toyota and Honda in every way, especially when a model is brand new to market

The size and comfort will be a good thing for these two models. Exterior styling is a positive as well. Almost 4Runner size interior cargo carrying. New vectoring AWD. It’s nice to see Hyundai finally start their MSRP on par with a comparable Toyota. Interesting to see both the KIA and the Hyundai start at the same price point.

Hoovey689

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0-60 with 1-2 people in the car isn't the problem. It's when there is a heavy payload/towing that the engine feels lethargic or sluggish according to several test drives from some publications

Coolchuck

I think the Telluride is is a good looking ride. I’d like it to have more hp but it would be fine for the wife. I tried to have her consider it but she’s put off by the badge.
I think it looks to be same size as our second generation Pilot, which doesn’t look super big but has a suprising amount of room inside.