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Old 07-02-19, 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
It’s all good, my thread was simply to suggest the H/K newbies had an opportunity before the new highlander arrives, and with the pilot being a bit old now, etc. and so I certainly had no problem that we were discussing how the H/K newbies compare with established models or the upcoming highlander.
I don't want to hijack this thread into new territory, but I think it needs to be pointed out that this class of mid-sized SUV-crossover market is not just dominated by the Highlander/Pilot and the Koreans. VW has already introduced an excellent European competitor in the Atlas. Subaru has done the same with the Ascent, which does not charge extra for the standard AWD like some other crossovers do. And, of course, the all-new, ever-popular 2020 Ford Explorer is on the way....should be reaching dealerships any day now.
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Yes, Atlas has had great reviews as being refined and VERY roomy.
The Ascent is a great offering too... seen plenty of them on the road.

a lot of good to great vehicles competing for the same consumers and dollars.
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Originally Posted by tex2670
You keep saying this. Repeating it over and over doesn't make it true.

Toyota Highlander is going after the same demographic as Pilot, CX-9, Telluride, Palisade, Pathfinder, Traverse, Explorer, etc.

Just like anything else, only one can be the biggest inside, and one can be the smallest inside. They are all chasing after the same demographic, but they may try and promote certain features above others. Mazda promotes better handling and driving experience; they do this at the expense of interior space. Honda promotes practicality; but this may not be the greatest driving experience. Hyundai and Kia promote "more for your money". Atlas promotes "German engineering."

But they are all direct competitors. Even though, for example, Explorer Platinum may try and punch above its weight class going against lux makes. Sure, a $60K Explorer may not be what a Pilot or Palisade shopper is looking for, but offering that trim level allows Explorer to also try and compete against MDX and QX60.

You are getting hyper focused on one feature out of hundreds to make this non-sensical claim that Toyota isn't trying to market to young, suburban, upper-middle class families with the Highlander. That just makes no sense at all.
Good post.

They all go after the same demographic but aim at different preferences/priorities. You can't be all things.
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Originally Posted by tex2670
You keep saying this. Repeating it over and over doesn't make it true.

Toyota Highlander is going after the same demographic as Pilot, CX-9, Telluride, Palisade, Pathfinder, Traverse, Explorer, etc.

Just like anything else, only one can be the biggest inside, and one can be the smallest inside. They are all chasing after the same demographic, but they may try and promote certain features above others. Mazda promotes better handling and driving experience; they do this at the expense of interior space. Honda promotes practicality; but this may not be the greatest driving experience. Hyundai and Kia promote "more for your money". Atlas promotes "German engineering."

But they are all direct competitors. Even though, for example, Explorer Platinum may try and punch above its weight class going against lux makes. Sure, a $60K Explorer may not be what a Pilot or Palisade shopper is looking for, but offering that trim level allows Explorer to also try and compete against MDX and QX60.

You are getting hyper focused on one feature out of hundreds to make this non-sensical claim that Toyota isn't trying to market to young, suburban, upper-middle class families with the Highlander. That just makes no sense at all.
Exactly. Well said.
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