bitkahuna

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the article speaks for itself, they loved the g70 but not much the 3 series at all. i characterized that as crushed.

i wrote 'typically', not all.

such as?

must be why bmw came in last in that motortrend comparison.

definitely not the same, but 'much more' huh? well, they're quieter, softer, roomier, and a much broader product range of course. not sure what you mean by 'much more'. the competition hasn't stood still, so bmw is not the standout it once was. great cars though.

Toys4RJill

Compared to the BMW, the G70 came last in almost every single performance category. Every single one. For motor trend.

stasek

Funny you should mention it... One of my neighbors (female) has been leasing 3-series FOREVER. Few days ago we were chatting and the subject of her lease came up and she mentioned she's up for a new one within days. I told her
all about leasehackr forum, unicorns, loaners, etc....She listened in disbelief about how you can literally drive a 3/4 series for $200-$300 a month (her lease was mid $400). Another neighbor is a manager at local BMW dealership (lives 2 houses down from her) and she's been using that particular dealership for all the bimmer leases. Long story short - another couple days later, I talk to the other gent and ask if the lady picked up another car from him. His response? Yup - she stopped by on Saturday. All she cared about was the fact that the car was a 3-series and white. Nothing more, nothing less .

Toys4RJill

BMW used to be a specific yuppie type brand in the 1980's catering to those who like a sporty drive. A life style brand. Men where the #1 target of a youthful age. BMW is now a full on luxury brand, BMW has softened up their mainstream products to make them more appealing to all walks of life. However, you can still find and buy pure performance if you want...This is what I mean about being "much more" Their dealership network is greater than ever. Product offerings are better.

It is interesting how CR, a magazine you and I both loath, ranks in mid-pack in CR.

Did they love the Genesis G70? Or do you love Genesis?

This is what they said:

and....

Doesn't sound like it crushed it....(I'm done)

EZZ

There is no doubt that bmw is a better company than Genesis, but the G70 is the better sports sedan than the non M 3 series. This in itself is a big deal for a company like Genesis.

Toys4RJill

Apparently not in that article.


How can the article make a comment like this?

EZZ

But they also said

"Still, the G70 manages to balance both the sport sedan and luxury sedan side of the equation much better than the 3 Series."

The 3 series so far has lost most of the direct comparisons thus far to the G70. It is what it is.

Toys4RJill

Yes, it is what it is.

And what else is what it is, they compared a V6 G70 to the I4 3 series. Why not compare the I4 G70 to the V6 3 series? Why not?

My issue is more with media, and not the Genesis. Media publications are very very biased. Good for Genesis, it really is nice to see competition. We had a 340M for my work for a week, spectacular experience and it is not even the so called real M. We also had a 530e which is every bit as wonderful and reminded us of what Lexus used to be at their core, and vice versa a 540M (not a real M) and that was just like the 340M but was still smooth when it wanted to be. You can't got wrong with any of these models.. The Genesis products at the Square One mall, are very good as well. Not sure the G80 is really a luxury car, more like a higher end Hyundai, but the G70 and G90 are very nice. I like the updates to the new G90 at the Toronto Auto Show.....love the wheels the put on covering up the brakes like Maybach has done.

bitkahuna

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well they did say this:

that's pretty much crushing it.

as for bmw's vaunted branding and their decades of pushing them to 30-50 year old white yuppies who drive like jerks...

LOL

mmarshall

Thanks to the re-work of the steering and suspension systems, it's not even the brand it was a few years ago. The Ultimate Drive Machine became the Ultimate Jive Machine.

mmarshall

Have you looked at or test-driven a G70, Jill?

Toys4RJill

It is now the "The Ultimate Driving Experience" FYI.

Toys4RJill

Sorry. No longer going to discuss it with you. If you can't see my POV. This is not even a 6 vs 6 or 4 vs 4.

LexBob2

That's me! Except for the age (too old) and yuppie thing (again too old). My wife might agree with the jerk thing - But I don't.

EZZ

I'd rather someone drive their 3 series the way it's meant to be driven vs someone who drives their Vette 5mph below the speed limit in the right lane.