One thing is for sure with this brand. They are what I call design *****s. A new direction or language every generation or two. A facelift every two or three years. New names. New models. Lack of consistency or building a company theme. What happened to the dazzling sedan they created not too long ago that was touted as the greatest new thing? I guess it wasn't so amazing if they had to make another big shift.

These aren't all necessarily bad traits, but I feel sorry for anyone who has bought one of their products in the last six years. It's basically old and deflated in a short time.

 

i know you love to criticize everything lol, but genesis as a brand has only had g70, g80, g90. yes, there was equus and 'genesis' sedan and coupe when it was under the hyundai brand, but that was just part of the transition.

so it's a bad thing now to have new models, and a lot of updates. lol

 

I look forward to their products and hope they keep the pressure on the other manufacturers to continuously improve. Better for all of us. I like options

 

Exactly, i’m no fanboy of any brand, so if genesis doesn’t make it, oh well, but competition is a good thing!!!

lexus made the luxury vehicle market WAAAAAAY better when they arrived... forced mb/bmw/audi/jaguar/cadillac etc. to make biiiiig changes and improvements.

 

I understand what was being said here, but I agree, I'd rather have the updates.

I saw a G80 Sport in downtown KC not too long ago, and it still looks fresh even though it's not "new" anymore. I think the outgoing model will age well.

 

Too much critiquing? Isn't that what the internet was invented for? ; )
Not quite the point of my post. I want(ed) to stress the drastic design changes the brand keeps making. Continually re-inventing an identity has it's drawbacks, like wrecking a previous model's momentum.
But I too agree, I rather have them shoot for the stars than make little effort. In fact, I think it's time Lexus completely revamps their theme. The jumbo schnoz look has run it's course and the rest of the industry has moved on.

 

For a brand new to market model with a brand new engine, up to 400hp from a 3.5 engine seems uncompetitive. Toyota gets 416 from the same size engine, Cadillac gets 400 from a 3.0 and Ford gets 400 from their 3.0

 

Jill the 3.5 in the mid-engine Ford GT gets 641hp , 700hp on the track version.

I think most of these makes with 3.5TT's like Genesis, Lexus, Ford in some applications are saving room for refreshes. These 3.5TT's are extremely capable.

The LS 3.5TT whipped up 50 horsepower would be perfect for a new IS F.

 

For sure, but the article says up to 400 hp....that is low for a new engine, new to market. A little criticism doesn't hurt.

 

I think we all know the real question is: "How much torque will it make?"

 

Looking good here!

 

Hubba hubba...



More info here... https://www.motor1.com/news/402399/g...-g80-revealed/

 

This looks so good! Even like the oversized grill here. Well done!

 

Those side DRL's are super cool

 

I think I just found my next car... It's either going to be this or the GV80. I love them both - just have to decide which is best for us. This is such great execution from Genesis.