Acura TLX PMC Edition
07-12-19, 09:11 AM
#16
Pebble Beach is supposed to be some kind of flagship sedan based on the precision concept, very little information about it but some rumors suggest a limit number 100K sedan, some kind of unique platform with unique hybrid or NG powertrain combo. They are also rumored to show a updated NSX with more power, some styling changes, maybe interior change. The sedan based on the precision concept and the RLX replacement may be two different cars.
The paint on the TLX is gorgeous(pity the body guy who has to fix it/repaint it), the price is actually not that much when you consider it is a fully loaded TLX and the paint job alone cost over 5K but they should have still added a few more things to differentiate it from other TLX's like unique wheels, lower it, unique trim, etc.
The paint on the TLX is gorgeous(pity the body guy who has to fix it/repaint it), the price is actually not that much when you consider it is a fully loaded TLX and the paint job alone cost over 5K but they should have still added a few more things to differentiate it from other TLX's like unique wheels, lower it, unique trim, etc.
07-12-19, 09:23 AM
#17
Lexus Fanatic
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why is so-called 'hand built' impressive? the car must still be largely built by robots.
understand... yes, if reliability is paramount, lexus is the way to go! 
Between my wife and I we have owned 12 Acura's and really enjoyed them. Thought I would stay with them forever. Moved to Lexus six years ago and no looking back. Something has happened to Acura/Honda regarding their reliability. The last two to three years we started having issues mechanically. Lexus is easy to track. Been #1 for eight years in a row in dependability by J D Power. We have not had one thing go wrong. Acura in 2014 was ranked 4th, 2016 8th, 2018 20th and 2019 26th. This is certainly an alarming trend. Would not matter the looks would never buy another Acura.
07-12-19, 09:39 AM
#18
True, however those JD Power lists are a bit misleading because the gap between most makes is honestly not as big as the list makes it to be. You'd be hard pressed to find a modern car that is not decent
07-12-19, 10:06 AM
#19
Lexus Fanatic
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as i've written many times on here... if problems per hundred vehicles is 100 for best and 200 for worst, the 'worst' is technically 100% worse but is 2 problems per car so awful compared to 1? plus as always it depends what the problems are.
07-12-19, 06:18 PM
#20
Lexus Fanatic
So. How much is the AMG is hand built?
Last edited by Toys4RJill; 07-12-19 at 09:05 PM.
07-12-19, 09:00 PM
#21
Lexus Fanatic
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Paying $50K, it makes things interesting and fun. I have no idea if it is "better" and I don't think I have ever implied that.
A Rolls is largely hand built.
Automating that kind of production is impossible so there’s more hands on for trim, but still a lot of it is robots.
I think that any Toyota that has a JT vin is more interesting that those with a 2. I even read that the Palisade is made in Korea while the Telluride is made in the USA, for me, I would edge towards the Korea built model just for the sake of heritage if I was having trouble deciding either or. Some things are just interesting. But if you can't see this POV, then so be it.
07-12-19, 09:14 PM
#22
Lexus Fanatic
How about: The hand built Acura is interesting and fun, that makes it impressive IMO.
Well, you kinda are. You’re telling me you don’t think hand built is anything to you. Nor do you care about heritage. And that’s OK. I respect your point of view on the subject.
Well, you kinda are. You’re telling me you don’t think hand built is anything to you. Nor do you care about heritage. And that’s OK. I respect your point of view on the subject.
Last edited by Toys4RJill; 07-13-19 at 05:51 AM.
07-13-19, 03:57 AM
#23
Pole Position
So you are saying basically all vehicles are about the same in dependability and makes no difference if one buys a Lexus or a Fiat. So myself and at least ten friends that have had many Lexus's over many years and many miles all have not had any problems. Friends that have had the bottom of the list Jaguar, Acura, Land Rover, Jeep and Volvo and every single one of them have had mechanical issues. So in your eyes just a coincidence.
07-15-19, 08:52 AM
#24
So you are saying basically all vehicles are about the same in dependability and makes no difference if one buys a Lexus or a Fiat. So myself and at least ten friends that have had many Lexus's over many years and many miles all have not had any problems. Friends that have had the bottom of the list Jaguar, Acura, Land Rover, Jeep and Volvo and every single one of them have had mechanical issues. So in your eyes just a coincidence.
I have a friend with a current gen XJ, another with a newish MDX, and another with a current gen JGC, and none of those have issues.
Just because you buy a Toyota doesn't mean it will be trouble free, and just because you buy a BMW doesn't mean it'll be a lemon. Some stereotypes or potential issues with some makes will happen, there is no perfect car. But overall buy any 2019 vs 2009 vs 1999 vs 1989 and the newer will likely be better. There is an upward trend in quality.
Thanks for overlooking the original post
however those JD Power lists are a bit misleading because the gap between most makes is honestly not as big as the list makes it to be. You'd be hard pressed to find a modern car that is not decent
07-15-19, 10:44 AM
#25
Lexus Fanatic
I have a friend with a current gen XJ, another with a newish MDX, and another with a current gen JGC, and none of those have i
Just because you buy a Toyota doesn't mean it will be trouble free, and just because you buy a BMW doesn't mean it'll be a lemon. Some stereotypes or potential issues with some makes will happen, there is no perfect car:
The one off examples of “heard it from a friend who” also might of “heard it from a friend who” are not backed by third party data as well as resale data. There is a reason why Toyota or Honda holds value across their line ups, has nothing to do with how good their vehicles are, it has everything to do with their long term reliability. CR and JD are third party data systems (that have flaws) but they are more reliable than this friend who say their friend or other friend etc might had this or had that....”talk is cheap”.....”so the story is good”
07-15-19, 10:55 AM
#26
These opinions are one-offs. My brother had his Elantra engine replaced under warranty (holds very little value)
The one off examples of “heard it from a friend who” also might of “heard it from a friend who” are not backed by third party data as well as resale data. There is a reason why Toyota or Honda holds value across their line ups, has nothing to do with how good their vehicles are, it has everything to do with their long term reliability. CR and JD are third party data systems (that have flaws) but they are more reliable than this friend who say their friend or other friend etc might had this or had that....”talk is cheap”.....”so the story is good”
The one off examples of “heard it from a friend who” also might of “heard it from a friend who” are not backed by third party data as well as resale data. There is a reason why Toyota or Honda holds value across their line ups, has nothing to do with how good their vehicles are, it has everything to do with their long term reliability. CR and JD are third party data systems (that have flaws) but they are more reliable than this friend who say their friend or other friend etc might had this or had that....”talk is cheap”.....”so the story is good”
07-15-19, 11:16 AM
#27
Lexus Fanatic
Disclaimer: I do know of someone who’s LS400 had a catastrophic engine failure in the 8-10th year. My guess timing belt broke.
07-15-19, 11:36 AM
#29
Lexus Test Driver
Originally Posted by Kense
They should have given this car a Big Bump in HP. What's the point of this? The TLX is slow by modern standards and BORING.