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Old 08-02-19, 01:38 PM
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Default FCA CEO says the Ram 1500 Classic will live on


There is no end date in sight for the Ram 1500 Classic pickup that FCA sells alongside its newest-generation Ram, and it may get an update, CEO Mike Manley suggests.

As a lower-priced option, the previous-generation 1500 lives on as the Classic and it continues to notch steady sales while increasing Ram market share and generally driving the competition crazy.

As long as the Classic continues to make business sense, there are no plans to discontinue the truck based on the 2018 model platform anytime soon, Manley told investors on the second-quarter earnings call. In fact, it might get an update, Manley said.

No details are forthcoming right now, but it does bode well for those worried the Classic will make a hasty exit. The Classic has one very big advantage: price. A bare bones Tradesman with a bench seat, 3.6-liter V-6, and eight-speed automatic starts at $29,340, and at the high end, a Big Horn with the 5.7-liter Hemi V-8 and a host of available amenities is priced from $46,240.

The all-new Ram 1500 starts at $35,135 and offers a fresh design, better fuel economy including eTorque mild-hybrid technology, greater towing capacity, a large Uconnect touchscreen, and other upgrades that a new generation vehicle makes possible.

FCA makes Ram pickups, big and small, old generation and new, at three plants. Warren Truck Assembly in Michigan makes the Classic and will add the Jeep Wagoneer and Grand Wagoneer. The plant in Saltillo, Mexico, makes the regular cab Classic as well as heavy-duty pickups. FCA retooled the Sterling Heights plant in Michigan to make the latest-generation Ram 1500, which debuted for the 2019 model year.

Manley said the automaker has ensured Warren can continue to build light-duty trucks into the future as a safety valve given the steady sales growth Ram is enjoying. Ram pickups now have 28 percent market share, up 7 points from a year ago. Ram has jumped past the Chevrolet Silverado to take the No. 2 spot behind the Ford F-Series.

"If I look at overall volume demand today and the three sources that we have, even though it is true that the combined volume of those three sources is slightly in excess of what I would call today's forward-looking demand, we seem to be growing at a relatively good pace so I think keeping flexibility going forward is important," Manley said.

"Which means if we make changes to the Classic, it may well stay as a Classic but updated Classic, if you know what I mean," Manley said. This two-truck strategy is working well in the showroom with the Classic as an entry-level truck and the all-new Ram 1500 as the step-up. GM uses the smaller Colorado as the entry-level truck, stepping up to the Silverado. Ram plans to add a smaller truck to the lineup, but those plans have yet to come to fruition.

Meanwhile, production of the Ram Heavy Duty as well as the new Jeep Gladiator continue to ramp up. Gladiator has quickly secured almost 8 percent of the segment in its early sales days.

Overall, FCA had a strong second quarter given the slowing of the global industry that has caused many companies to report losses and revise overall financial forecasts downward. FCA reported a net profit of $884 million with a 14 percent increase in net income and a 3 percent bump in revenue, giving the company the confidence to maintain its guidance for the year.

The strength of Jeep and Ram contributed to a record second quarter in North America, compensating for disappointing sales of Maserati and struggles in Europe and China where sales are slowing.
https://www.motortrend.com/news/ram-...update-coming/
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Ram plans to add a smaller truck to the lineup, but those plans have yet to come to fruition


Right now, IMO, that would make more sense. Mid-size trucks don't usually sell in the numbers that full-size ones do, but with the re-introduction of the Ford Ranger, the already-competent 2Gen Colorado/Canyon, the always-popular Toyota Tacoma, the newfound appeal of the Jeep Gladiator, the car-like Honda Ridgeline, and (finally) a new Nissan Frontier coming after many years, a mid-size Ram would fit right in.
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Originally Posted by mmarshall

Right now, IMO, that would make more sense. Mid-size trucks don't usually sell in the numbers that full-size ones do, but with the re-introduction of the Ford Ranger, the already-competent 2Gen Colorado/Canyon, the always-popular Toyota Tacoma, and (finally) a new Nissan Frontier coming after many years, a mid-size Ram would fit right in.
Possibly the return of the Dakota
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Originally Posted by Hoovey2411
Possibly the return of the Dakota
Possibly, but my guess is that it would more likely be called the Ram Sport. The term "Sport" is not just used to necessarily mean sport-orientation, but often a smaller size of the standard vehicle. We have seen that nomenclature from a number of manufacturers.

The term "Dakota", for too many people, would probably bring back memories of a poorly-built, unreliable, and Ho-Hum driving truck that was basically a utiity-appliance.
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Anyhow, back to this truck.....some of this is news to me. I was not aware that the current Ram was going to be called the "Classic".
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I like the Classic far more than the new model.
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Strange to see this. Dodge is making serious inroads for sales against Chevy. Very odd. Probably a bad long term decision, but good for the short term.
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
Anyhow, back to this truck.....some of this is news to me. I was not aware that the current Ram was going to be called the "Classic".
its not the current Ram. It is the last gen that is still being produced along side the new one for those who want a cheap truck

keeping it around makes sense, if you need a cheap truck for work/fleet, they should just keep making it instead of dismantling the plant. Nissan already is doing this on the Rogue Select. Its a profit maker for the company because the tooling has been paid off long ago
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Originally Posted by 4TehNguyen
its not the current Ram. It is the last gen that is still being produced along side the new one for those who want a cheap truck
Sorry if that was unclear...that was what I meant by "current", the 2019 Ram, not the 2020.

Nissan already is doing this on the Rogue Select. Its a profit maker for the company because the tooling has been paid off long ago
Did you mean the Rogue Sport? The Rogue Select (which was the last-generation Rogue) went out of production a few years ago.
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both the new and Classic were made in 2019
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The 2019 Ram 1500 (DT) is the new body style. The 2019 Ram 1500 Classic is the 4th generation. Both are still sold as new. I think FCA would be right to re-name the 4th gen to something different. While it is a full sized truck, it is considerably smaller than the new 5th gen. Name it something else, not Dakota, and don't call it a 1500 or anything with the number in the name.
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Originally Posted by ArmyofOne
. Name it something else, not Dakota, and don't call it a 1500 or anything with the number in the name.
I think 1500 Classic works.. That is just my opinion.
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Agreed, 1500 Classic is a good name. It is a 1500, and that 4th generation really helped turn around Ram once they switched to coil suspension. Classic works
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Put the interior from 5th gen into the Classic and they have an even bigger winner.
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