SW17LS

To be fair, other vehicles offer all of those benefits and are better to drive.

Toys4RJill

But they don’t carry the resale. The reliability. And long term ownership. So, on the one hand, they may drive better (opinion, yours) , but on the other hand, those that like Toyota or Lexus body on frame models for whatever reason keep them longer than competition and other Toyota or Lexus models.

SW17LS

But that's the point of the review, its his opinion, and clearly if you look at the sales figures people find other entries in that segment far more compelling than the LX and the LC. Selling cars is a business, resale and "length of ownership" are all well and good but what counts is what people buy.

The point is in an all new platform Toyota/Lexus can deliver a vehicle that has the same reliability and capability but in a more modern package that will have a lighter easier drive like you see in the competition...which would result in a vehicle with more widespread appeal and improve sales. It doesn't have to be unibody either, just drive a Navigator or an Escalade, they drive way better.

Toys4RJill

I don’t think there will be another body on frame LX for the US market. This will be the last platform.

SW17LS

They'll have to have something that competes in that segment. Hopefully its a serious high end RWD based crossover

Toys4RJill

A large size cross over that spans the high RX, GX price points all the way to LX price points is my guess. The LX will just keep getting updated and will stay in ultra low numbers. Even lower numbers.

SW17LS

I don't think that's the right approach. They need a bona fide full size flagship luxury SUV that can compete with the Range Rover, X7, GLS, etc. A vehicle that starts at high RX levels isn't going to be able to do that.

coolsaber

Last update on this was current Gen bows out after MY20, MY21 sees the next generation riding on something called TGNF. It's supposed to the BOF version of TGNA and giving rise to all large trucks and suvs

Toys4RJill

It will be the large flagship crossover. I think there is a concept already. LX will turn into something like Mercedes Benz G wagon sort of.

Toys4RJill

Toyota did say, there will be some models that do no move to TNGA design

SW17LS

Just using the G Wagen as an example, even it has an all new version out now that drives dramatically better while retaining its character and its capability.

Toys4RJill

https://www.boston.com/cars/car-guid...xus-lx-reviews

still rather have the Toyota version. The front of the LX looks bad. I really hope they don’t go all out and change the guts too much.

Fizzboy7

For elders, it's more the habit of grabbing a shift lever and yanking it down till it stops in "D." All of which can be done without looking or taking eyes off the road. The above accomplishes that, even if it's got the boot you don't like.

bitkahuna

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The lx is 200” long with just 112” of wheelbase. This is obvious when looking at it, short wheelbase and long overhangs. This won’t provide the comfortable ride of a long wheelbase proportion. And of course it’s trucky body on frame.

the ‘19 mb gls for example is 202” long with 121” of wheelbase! With its fully active air suspension too, makes for one smooth ride.

bitkahuna

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Not saying it’s not true, and i know it’s true for you, but how do you know that it’s true generally?

I bet toyota avalon customers keep those vehicles a long time too, but each version has been dramatically different from the previous ones.

And 11 years is an eternity in the car business, but also, over a DECADE in one’s life, not a small amount of time! Maybe people should live a little and try something else. moreover, people’s circumstances change, whether they want them to or not, and what was desirable or needed or even feasible one year isn’t necessarily so 11 years from then.