Toyota Camry Mechanical Review: Old vs New
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Its not crappy but its also low tech compared to a lot of the other powertrains out there. Kia has the 3.3L turbo, Nissan has the variable compression turbo, BMW has the I4/I6 turbo, Audi has the 2.9L V6 turbo, Honda has the 1.5L turbo, etc... I can't understand why Toyota doesn't put its 3.5L turbo into other applications.
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Maybe it’s just me, but I’ve never really considered turbocharging to be high tech. I would not necessarily view a direct and port injected V6 that can run in Atkinson or Otto Cycles to be of lower tech than a direct injection only Otto cycle 6 cylinder with a turbo.
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Its not crappy but its also low tech compared to a lot of the other powertrains out there. Kia has the 3.3L turbo, Nissan has the variable compression turbo, BMW has the I4/I6 turbo, Audi has the 2.9L V6 turbo, Honda has the 1.5L turbo, etc... I can't understand why Toyota doesn't put its 3.5L turbo into other applications.
And yeah I agree, and I'm sure they will.
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Would you rather take a Land Cruiser on a desert safari powered by a nice, big NA Toyota V8, or a G-Wagen with the ultra complex TTV8?
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Just my thought. It has to do with profits. A new engine in the IS line will not move the sales needle compared to where it was when the current gen debuted. Sedans are declining and I think there is no example anywhere of a multi gen model selling better late in the model cycle compared to when the gen model debuted or the model before it. Toyota is still making big profits on their sedans even though they are really decreasing in sales.
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
Just my thought. It has to do with profits. A new engine in the IS line will not move the sales needle compared to where it was when the current gen debuted. Sedans are declining and I think there is no example anywhere of a multi gen model selling better late in the model cycle compared to when the gen model debuted or the model before it. Toyota is still making big profits on their sedans even though they are really decreasing in sales.
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With IS, maybe. But the Lexus LS with the new V6TT has not done anything for sales. Sedans slowing sales is the bigger issues I think. If the IS were to go away, Lexus would not hurt.
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
Nowhere as competitive as German or American Diesel engine. Debuted in 08, it is the first diesel V8 by Toyota.With IS, maybe. But the Lexus LS with the new V6TT has not done anything for sales. Sedans slowing sales is the bigger issues I think. If the IS were to go away, Lexus would not hurt.
A strategy deployed by Tesla was to win the enthusiast market by making the Model 3 very sporty which helped cater to the enthusiasts. They adopted the car and drove scale and brand. Now the car and brand are very common giving regular buyers confidence in the company enabling Tesla to offer the Model Y to win non-enthusiasts. Everyone knew crossovers were winning even when the Model 3 was revealed. It's likely that Tesla thought going too mainstream without establishing the brand was risky. I think they did a masterful job of finding the right demographic to strengthen their brand.