Toys4RJill

So a while ago I had made a thread about AUTO HVAC and do you like it or hate it. I recall it got quite heated. Anyways, I have always hated the AUTO mode for precisely the reason that the blower would just go off all crazy and annoy the hell out of me.

Well, Lincoln with their new Corsair has taken the AUTO mode to the next level. They now offer a 3-speed AUTO mode, so now there is a low blower mode (to minimize the noise), moderate mode, and an increased mode. No more going off like a space rocket when you get into the car anymore. I know there are always those members who think that auto manufacturers just want to screw customers and bean count everything, I am not one of them.

Here is a case of taking care of customers...a nice added little detail...some quiet luxury.

mmarshall

I won't necessarily comment on this new system without having seen it. But, in general, AUTO functions are not for me. I do a better job myself, of getting the system to do what I want it to do, by using the HVAC the controls manually, mixing and/or combining features as needed.

And, by using the systems manually, that's how I spotted that defective temperature regulator in my Lacrosse that needed be replaced. That was a major piece of warranty work under the dash.

LexBob2

I've been using AUTO mode on our cars for years. No more fiddling around with the HVAC. I might adjust the TEMP up and down now and then as needed and that's it.

It's nice to see Lincoln adding a feature like this to the entry level Corsair vs. maybe just offering it on the Aviator or Navigator.

mmarshall

I think they just expect the Corsair to have better sales. The Navigator, particularly in high-zoot trim, is very expensive, and even the Aviator can run quite a lot of $$$$$ for what you get. The Corsair, particularly in the lower trim levels, is going to potentially appeal to a lot more people.

Toys4RJill

Not sure if it on the higher models. But a three level set up is nice set up to please all parties.

Hoovey689

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On Lexus models on AUTO the lower you make the temperature the higher the fan speed, from my experience. Honestly I just manually adjust fan speed and temp, nbd to me. 3-speed auto on Lincoln is unique. I'll have to sample one.

bitkahuna

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If you’re doing everything manually, wouldn’t that make you the temperature regulator?

bitkahuna

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you’re saying they added this new feature to the corsair because they expect to sell more of them. I don’t understand. If that follows why not add EVERY feature to the corsair?

isn’t it more likely that navigator and aviator were already baked for production before this feature was in the design pipeline, but they could add it to corsair, probably with little cost and add something unique? I assume if it’s well received it will appear on the other models too.

Here we go again... no, auto fan speed is proportional to the difference in temperature from what you set it to and what the current inside temperature is. There’s a current temp and a target temp. A bit like a highway entrance ramp and accelerating to match speed of traffic flow. Now this lincoln system ‘3 level’ is basically just varying the acceleration. It can get you to the destination temperature, slow, normal, or quick. The resulting less or more fan noise and air speed is the result.

the only other variable is the temperature of the air they’re introducing. If they pumped in air in a huge quantities that’s slightly cooler or warmer than current temp, it will make less of a difference than if it pumped in arctic-cold or hellish-hot air.

You’re in California. QED. but sersiously if your car has been sitting in direct sun and you get in and want a ‘normal’ temperature to you, auto is going to see a large discrepency in current and target temps, but there’s limits to both fan speed and how cold the air can be so it just goes ‘full blast’.

cracks me up when i see people setting the temperature lower to min/cold/60 etc. thinking this will make the car cool quicker. Same in opposite direction... if it’s freezing out, setting car to 85 won’t heat the car up any quicker than 70.

mmarshall

OK, I agree. You have a point. Sorry....I could have clarified or explained that a little better. Ford, however, does have a tendency to sometimes try out new features on vehicles that are not top-of-the-line. There are a number of examples. Decades ago, for instance, the sequential-turn-signals in the rear appeared on the Ford Thunderbird/Mercury Cougar (and later, the Mustang)...but not on Lincoln models, which have never adapted them, even today. A more recent example was when Ford introduced the sweep-foot-under rear-bumper-feature to automatically open the rear hatch on the Ford Escape Titanium model...this feature, for awhile (an excellent one, IMO), , was only found on the Titanium version of the Escape, and not on larger and more expensive Explorers or Expeditions. Another relatively recent example was the adjustable-colors for the dash lights the Mustang....that did not find its way into more expensive Ford products, ether.

Sometimes it does warm or cool the vehicle faster. it depends on how the warm-air control is configured. For instance, on some vehicles (my Lacrosse is one of them), the higher or lower the temperature you set the heat-**** by rotating it, the more hot air or cold air flows out of the vents. Set it up to max heat (around 85 degrees or so, and more hot air does come out of the vents quicker).You can also, in some vehicles, sync the left and right-hand temperature control if it has a dual-system.

Now, as in some vehicles, if the heat-control is not specific-temperature-linked, then, yes, you are correct....bu the same principle applies. You get more or less hot air by where you set the **** or fan-speed.

(Please.....no jokes about hot air and my comments LOL )

tex2670

All they did is adopt a feature that's been on the market for years with other manufactures. My '14 328 has the ability to control the max fan speed on auto climate control--5 levels.

bitkahuna

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No, if using climate control, it depends on the difference between actual temperature and target temperature. There’s limits to how much and at what temperature the air comes from the vents. So if it’s 90 in the car and you want 70, setting it to 60 will NOT make it cool more quickly, because whether it’s a 20 or 30 degree swing you request, it’ll blast cold air as far as it can. Now as it approaches the target temp it will slow. But since almost no one wants their car at 60, setting it to that to get it to 70 ‘quicker’ is pointless.

mmarshall

All I can do is describe what my experience has been, with most of the vehicles I've owned.

geko29

Yep, and it was in the prior two generations as well. My 2000 E46 323i worked this way, as does my 2011 E90 335d.

So congratulations Lincoln on introducing a feature your competitors have had for a quarter century.

AJT123

Yes I've had this argument since my first car when I was 16 when my friends would jack the heat up to 90 with a freezing cold car...pointless. This drives me crazy also. Put it on auto and forget it. In my house it's split. Every time I use the other car it's set to some stupid manual setting and I have to hit auto.

We went over the 28 vent thing in the LC/LX.....LX is going to be spouse's car. I really don't know how I'm gonna deal with a vehicle with 28 vents and a true 4 zone system with everything manually set every time I get in it. I'm not OCD or anything (far from it), but what a waste.

The whole Lincoln thing, ok that's cool but I would probably use the max mode so really pointless for me....whatever warms and cools me the fastest is what I want.

Toys4RJill

Think about it from a manual point of perspective. If I am in my underground garage, you select either LO or HI or any temp in between, if I select HI and the set speed to high, it will heat the interior faster.

It is interesting to note, if left in AUTO mode and set to HI, the fan speed will not immediately go out of the low fan setting.

I think you are correct.

This seems logical.

That appears to the cast. thanks for the post