2021 Kia K5 / Optima
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
i saw a new Avalon on the road the other day too, first one I’ve seen and I thought it looked GREAT.
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Last edited by mmarshall; 11-12-19 at 07:36 AM.
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The side and rear are definitely the Avalons best look. That grill ruins it for me. We took a quick look at one not too long ago and it was a quick no go for my wife.
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Back to the new Optima, which is nice.
Last edited by Toys4RJill; 11-12-19 at 08:40 AM.
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The whole idea of the Avalon styling was to be polarizing. done on purpose, to cause a reaction either "good" or "bad". Case in point, the thread has turned to an Avalon front end discussion where attention has turned to the highest-scoring full-size mainstream sedan at CR. Certain people will not buy it, but they are talking about it.
Back to the new Optima, which is nice.
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Manufacturers also like plain white cars (without the added pearl/oyster texture) because it is considered the cheapest color to produce...there's no color-pigments in it. That's why, when many companies order work trucks in a bulk-purchase, they often arrive in white....unless they special-order them in the company colors.
Anyway, sorry i brought it up, my point was swoopy sedans are the thing now.
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Gimmick styling will not help sell sedans in fact I think it’s hurting them.
I think more and more SUVs are better designed inside and out compared to sedans.
Manufacturers are sweating all the details on these SUVs but for coupes/sedans they put as many creases, fake vents, fake exhaust tips etc bec they feel that will sell. Consumers are too smart for that.
I think more and more SUVs are better designed inside and out compared to sedans.
Manufacturers are sweating all the details on these SUVs but for coupes/sedans they put as many creases, fake vents, fake exhaust tips etc bec they feel that will sell. Consumers are too smart for that.
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Issue I have always had with CR is that all of their reviews and impressions are released 2-3 after every other publication At that point you they have lots of time to custom tailor those earlier reviews if they want. Day and date reviews with everyone else levels the playing field and provides better accuracy. Their other data such as reliability is either to be believed or not to be. Just my thoughts.