Motortrend announced 2020 Car/SUV/Truck of the Year
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As for "who remembers the Veracruz or Borrego", they've got it right on the money. Most consumers have no idea what those vehicles were
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(they were awful)
I have to disagree on one thing.......both were quite well-built, though they didn't steer or handle as well as newer Koean SUVs.
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Bleh.
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True, but that doesn't mean that the rest of the country is exactly living in a cave. With today's Internet and 24/7 information cycles, it's not difficult to know when new vehicles are introduced.
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https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...8565628&src=nl
We just happen to do, so C&D. I'm sorry, but we are not a bunch of idiots. In fact, I did a test-drive and review of the Veracruz. Nice vehicle inside and out (excellent fit/finish and materials) but it drove and steered like a school bus.
Though the Borrego (Mojave) was not as plush inside or out as the Veracruz, it had durable body-on-frame construction, and was solidly built.
We just happen to do, so C&D. I'm sorry, but we are not a bunch of idiots. In fact, I did a test-drive and review of the Veracruz. Nice vehicle inside and out (excellent fit/finish and materials) but it drove and steered like a school bus.
Though the Borrego (Mojave) was not as plush inside or out as the Veracruz, it had durable body-on-frame construction, and was solidly built.
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Highlander will capture a big market because....its a Highlander. Spec for spec its going to be significantly more money than a Telluride or Palisade so they should continue to do well.
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They were fine for the time, but they did not succeed.
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Highlander will capture a big market because....its a Highlander. Spec for spec its going to be significantly more money than a Telluride or Palisade so they should continue to do well.
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The Corvette is cool, but it's just another vehicle in a long line of fantasy cars MT and other mags continue to push each month. I think it was last issue, every single car or SUV MT reviewed and talked about was well over $60k. By far, the worst issue of this chronic problem. Prices just about no one can afford in real life. Do people really get that excited over cars they cannot afford? Do people really sit there and drool over $100k cars over the toilet? I think it was interesting the first time we read about these exotics, decades ago. I want to know and read about cars I can potentially own. There would be practical value with that. I am sure the majority of America would agree, but I guess not. MT is just getting worse and worse with these unrealistic reviews.
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The Corvette is cool, but it's just another vehicle in a long line of fantasy cars MT and other mags continue to push each month. I think it was last issue, every single car or SUV MT reviewed and talked about was well over $60k. By far, the worst issue of this chronic problem. Prices just about no one can afford in real life. Do people really get that excited over cars they cannot afford? Do people really sit there and drool over $100k cars over the toilet? I think it was interesting the first time we read about these exotics, decades ago. I want to know and read about cars I can potentially own. There would be practical value with that. I am sure the majority of America would agree, but I guess not. MT is just getting worse and worse with these unrealistic reviews.
C8 will sell.
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The Corvette is cool, but it's just another vehicle in a long line of fantasy cars MT and other mags continue to push each month. I think it was last issue, every single car or SUV MT reviewed and talked about was well over $60k. By far, the worst issue of this chronic problem. Prices just about no one can afford in real life. Do people really get that excited over cars they cannot afford? Do people really sit there and drool over $100k cars over the toilet? I think it was interesting the first time we read about these exotics, decades ago. I want to know and read about cars I can potentially own. There would be practical value with that. I am sure the majority of America would agree, but I guess not. MT is just getting worse and worse with these unrealistic reviews.
R&T (Road and Track), not MT, was probably the publication that, more than any other, started dwelling, every month, on expensive and/or exotic vehicles that the average Joe, across the country, would never be buying. AJT123 has a point, however, that $70K+ full-size SUVs and other vehicles are commonly seen on the roads every day, particularly where I live and its affluence.
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Not sure you are correct. we have vehicles that span build dates in there different decades. But I think this has more to do with your belief that people don’t view Hyundai in a better light than they did in the past, that I disagree. People look at Hyundai from a positive perspective. Sone care for Hyundai and some don’t. I think you just have a a difficult time with those who just don’t care for the brand, but that is a differently feeling that someone who does not view them as my better than the past.
This thread really is supposed to be a celebration about the SOTY award for Telluride.
This thread really is supposed to be a celebration about the SOTY award for Telluride.
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Not sure you are correct. we have vehicles that span build dates in there different decades. But I think this has more to do with your belief that people don’t view Hyundai in a better light than they did in the past, that I disagree. People look at Hyundai from a positive perspective. Sone care for Hyundai and some don’t. I think you just have a a difficult time with those who just don’t care for the brand, but that is a differently feeling that someone who does not view them as my better than the past.
This thread really is supposed to be a celebration about the SOTY award for Telluride.
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The Corvette is cool, but it's just another vehicle in a long line of fantasy cars MT and other mags continue to push each month. I think it was last issue, every single car or SUV MT reviewed and talked about was well over $60k. By far, the worst issue of this chronic problem. Prices just about no one can afford in real life. Do people really get that excited over cars they cannot afford? Do people really sit there and drool over $100k cars over the toilet? I think it was interesting the first time we read about these exotics, decades ago. I want to know and read about cars I can potentially own. There would be practical value with that. I am sure the majority of America would agree, but I guess not. MT is just getting worse and worse with these unrealistic reviews.
Its an enthusiast magazine...not a consumers magazine. Do people sit there and drool over cars they can't afford? Are you a car enthusiast? Did you have posters of cars in your room when you were a kid? What did you have posters of, certified pre-owned Hyundai Elantras?!? Did you sit there at night and say "hmm, what a sensible purchase that will be"
I can't believe you're even asking this question LOL
Its Motor Trend, not Consumer Reports or Budget Wheels Monthly
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