Car Chat General discussion about Lexus, other auto manufacturers and automotive news.

2020 Highlander

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 01-18-21, 02:21 PM
  #541  
SW17LS
Lexus Fanatic
 
SW17LS's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Maryland
Posts: 56,938
Received 2,722 Likes on 1,949 Posts
Default

Hate the nose of the XSE trim...
SW17LS is offline  
Old 06-27-21, 09:35 AM
  #542  
Toys4RJill
Lexus Fanatic
 
Toys4RJill's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: ON/NY
Posts: 30,931
Received 64 Likes on 55 Posts
Default

I think Toyota had a sales record in May 2021 for this mode. 28,834

I am not quite a fan of the model and I remember all the bashing for the size of the model and the direction Toyota went with their downsized hybrid...but looks like Toyota was right with their direction
Toys4RJill is offline  
Old 06-27-21, 05:01 PM
  #543  
SW17LS
Lexus Fanatic
 
SW17LS's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Maryland
Posts: 56,938
Received 2,722 Likes on 1,949 Posts
Default

The Highlander was going to sell the best regardless of how it was designed, doesn't mean its the best 3 row crossover. Toyota loyalists are going to buy it and not even look at anything else.
SW17LS is offline  
Old 06-27-21, 09:45 PM
  #544  
sorptd
Intermediate
 
sorptd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: NJ
Posts: 379
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
I think Toyota had a sales record in May 2021 for this mode. 28,834

I am not quite a fan of the model and I remember all the bashing for the size of the model and the direction Toyota went with their downsized hybrid...but looks like Toyota was right with their direction
28k is just insane! That’s compact suv numbers.

Originally Posted by SW17LS
The Highlander was going to sell the best regardless of how it was designed, doesn't mean its the best 3 row crossover. Toyota loyalists are going to buy it and not even look at anything else.
Party true however toyota hybrid SUVs are big part of why they continue to outsell everyone.
sorptd is offline  
Old 06-28-21, 05:15 AM
  #545  
bitkahuna
Lexus Fanatic
iTrader: (20)
 
bitkahuna's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Present
Posts: 74,642
Received 2,378 Likes on 1,560 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by sorptd
Party true however toyota hybrid SUVs are big part of why they continue to outsell everyone.
Especially now with high gas prices.
bitkahuna is offline  
Old 06-28-21, 06:48 AM
  #546  
pbm317
Lead Lap
 
pbm317's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Virginia
Posts: 4,890
Received 12 Likes on 9 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by sorptd
Party true however toyota hybrid SUVs are big part of why they continue to outsell everyone.
Not sure about that. Hybrid trims sit the longest on the dealer lots vs the gas trims.

Hybrid Limited takes nearly a month longer the sell than the gas, Hybrid XLE also sits about 3 weeks longer on a lot than the gas XLE. Hybrid LE sits the longest of any Highlander configuration at nearly 3 months.

Most popular is an XLE gas configuration.

Average days (not a great metric on its own) to turn a Highlander is just over a month around 34 days. Which is strong in a normal market. Palisade. 24 days, Telluride 16 days. Explorer is close to Highlander at 37 days. So Toyota seems to have better supply of vehicles to sell than many others do in this market, and even that is fairly constrained.

RAV4 sells faster, 22 days on average and there, interestingly the respective hybrid trim typically sells faster than the gas. So the Hybrid seems to be resonating more in the compact suv application than in the midsize.

pbm317 is offline  
Old 06-28-21, 07:37 AM
  #547  
Toys4RJill
Lexus Fanatic
 
Toys4RJill's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: ON/NY
Posts: 30,931
Received 64 Likes on 55 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by pbm317
Not sure about that. Hybrid trims sit the longest on the dealer lots vs the gas trims.

Hybrid Limited takes nearly a month longer the sell than the gas, Hybrid XLE also sits about 3 weeks longer on a lot than the gas XLE. Hybrid LE sits the longest of any Highlander configuration at nearly 3 months.

Most popular is an XLE gas configuration.

Average days (not a great metric on its own) to turn a Highlander is just over a month around 34 days. Which is strong in a normal market. Palisade. 24 days, Telluride 16 days. Explorer is close to Highlander at 37 days. So Toyota seems to have better supply of vehicles to sell than many others do in this market, and even that is fairly constrained.

RAV4 sells faster, 22 days on average and there, interestingly the respective hybrid trim typically sells faster than the gas. So the Hybrid seems to be resonating more in the compact suv application than in the midsize.
Nice spin. But the Highlander set a record for their sales numbers. Even with the global chip shortage. Hybrid takes longer because it’s more expensive and has a limited buyer that is willing to give up faster performance in the name of fuel economy

Last edited by Toys4RJill; 06-28-21 at 07:47 AM.
Toys4RJill is offline  
Old 06-28-21, 07:48 AM
  #548  
Toys4RJill
Lexus Fanatic
 
Toys4RJill's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: ON/NY
Posts: 30,931
Received 64 Likes on 55 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by bitkahuna
Especially now with high gas prices.
Coming soon will the Highlander Plug in hybrid.
Toys4RJill is offline  
Old 06-28-21, 07:57 AM
  #549  
pbm317
Lead Lap
 
pbm317's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Virginia
Posts: 4,890
Received 12 Likes on 9 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
Nice spin. But the Highlander set a record for their sales numbers. Even with the global chip shortage. Hybrid takes longer because it’s more expensive and has a limited buyer that is willing to give up faster performance in the name of fuel economy
Not spin, just showing that Hybrid doesn't seem to be the lynchpin of the Highlander's current success. Whereas with Rav4, it definitely seems to be a strong positive contributor for the model line. But with the RAV4 Hybrid presents both a stronger power figure and fuel economy. Highland Hybrid this go around does not deliver on that.
pbm317 is offline  
Old 06-28-21, 12:15 PM
  #550  
Toys4RJill
Lexus Fanatic
 
Toys4RJill's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: ON/NY
Posts: 30,931
Received 64 Likes on 55 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by pbm317
Not spin, just showing that Hybrid doesn't seem to be the lynchpin of the Highlander's current success. t.
Toyota Highlander Hybrid actually is the lynchpin for the success. In Q1 Toyota Highlander hybrid sales were up 408% Very successful for Toyota.
Toys4RJill is offline  
Old 06-28-21, 12:58 PM
  #551  
tex2670
Lexus Champion
 
tex2670's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Southeastern PA
Posts: 10,067
Received 9 Likes on 8 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
Nice spin. But the Highlander set a record for their sales numbers. Even with the global chip shortage. Hybrid takes longer because it’s more expensive and has a limited buyer that is willing to give up faster performance in the name of fuel economy
When I was looking at the RAV4 2 years ago, the hybrid was only $800 more for the same gas-powered trim level. How much more is the hybrid upcharge for the Highlander?
tex2670 is offline  
Old 06-28-21, 01:20 PM
  #552  
pbm317
Lead Lap
 
pbm317's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Virginia
Posts: 4,890
Received 12 Likes on 9 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
Toyota Highlander Hybrid actually is the lynchpin for the success. In Q1 Toyota Highlander hybrid sales were up 408% Very successful for Toyota.
Great, up Year over Year over a terrible quarter for most cars and country started to go into lockdown and new Highlander Hybrid had a late launch relative to the rest of the Highlander lineup, so there were literally none to sell in Q1 of 2020.

Toyota has cranked up Highlander Hybrid mix, but they've shown the be the lowest in demand, relative to that supply, amongst Highlander configurations.

Last edited by pbm317; 06-28-21 at 01:28 PM.
pbm317 is offline  
Old 06-28-21, 01:28 PM
  #553  
Toys4RJill
Lexus Fanatic
 
Toys4RJill's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: ON/NY
Posts: 30,931
Received 64 Likes on 55 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by tex2670
When I was looking at the RAV4 2 years ago, the hybrid was only $800 more for the same gas-powered trim level. How much more is the hybrid upcharge for the Highlander?
toyota.com $1400-$1500 upcharge.
Toys4RJill is offline  
Old 06-28-21, 02:06 PM
  #554  
SW17LS
Lexus Fanatic
 
SW17LS's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Maryland
Posts: 56,938
Received 2,722 Likes on 1,949 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by pbm317
Great, up Year over Year over a terrible quarter for most cars and country started to go into lockdown and new Highlander Hybrid had a late launch relative to the rest of the Highlander lineup, so there were literally none to sell in Q1 of 2020.

Toyota has cranked up Highlander Hybrid mix, but they've shown the be the lowest in demand, relative to that supply, amongst Highlander configurations.
Like I said to someone else, you have the data, we know you're right. Some people you're never gonna convince.
SW17LS is offline  
Old 06-28-21, 02:08 PM
  #555  
Toys4RJill
Lexus Fanatic
 
Toys4RJill's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: ON/NY
Posts: 30,931
Received 64 Likes on 55 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by SW17LS
Like I said to someone else, you have the data, we know you're right. Some people you're never gonna convince.
Toyota is actually recovering better than any other manufacturer.
Toys4RJill is offline  


Quick Reply: 2020 Highlander



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 02:22 AM.