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If they aren't appealing to you, fine, I can understand that, but don't make the mistake of thinking this is the 1990s and they still are second-rate (or even third-rate) products. Those days are long gone.
I don't. If you go and read my past posts, you will read that I have never ever commented on their past models having some sort of second-rate or third-rate product deficiency. I have consistently said time and time that they make competitive products. You are the only member that keeps going on and on about their past. For me, their design and message just do not appeal to me (some of their interior designs were quite appealing with the Elanta current and Sonata outgoing I also like the infotaiment system). But what is most interesting is that you have no current direct experience with a Hyundai or KIA, and you have never even owned one in the past. I consider you my friend on here and we send PMs every once in a while....but come on, you have to move on from the Hyundai/KIA past/present thing... I am just (politely)saying.