bitkahuna

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haha.

sure, sure...

gadgetman1

Which is why Tundra sales are nosediving! Toyota is the worst of the worst in mpg. I just heard today that the new redesigned Tundra will be delayed yet another year (2022) for some unknown reason. WTH?? At least Nissan is reworking the Titan to make it more competitive. The last real redesign to the tundra was 2007!

AJT123

Not I, said the fly. I will gladly pay extra in gas money for a tried and true (and great sounding) V8 for my truck.

Toys4RJill

Toyota MPG for their trucks and body on frame SUVS have never ever been at the top.. Our LX gets 11MPG combined. My 4Runner is 14MPG....but unlike some competitors, they are large engines, without gimmicks, and very valuable 4WD that is full time.

Toys4RJill

Absolutely agree. Although I see value in hybrids, I also see value in a V8

mmarshall

Lexus2000 is correct. Some quotes are dumb, and that is one of them. Change is sometimes good, but not necessarily when it is done simply for change's sake.

SW17LS

You miss the point of the quote. Change is a given, you have to embrace it and capitalize on it. Resisting changing forces around you is what’s self destructive.

EZZ

Ironically, the Koch family is one of the biggest FUD spreaders against EV because they are resistant to the change.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/cleante...buying-in/amp/

Funny

mmarshall

Yep.....and that's why Steve leased an outgoing LS460 instead of the new LS500. Simply changing a vehicle does not mean you are going to get sales.

Of course, some folks are buying the new LS.....I'd be wrong if I claimed otherwise. But it definitely ran into some resistance...more, I think, than Lexus expected.

mmarshall

Well, you resisted some change yourself by getting a new LS460 instead of the 500. Don't get me wrong.....I agreed with your decision, and would have done the same thing myself. But, my point is that resisting is not always self-destructive.....in fact, it can be a beneficial thing in some circumstances.

SW17LS

I don’t manufacture cars.

LeX2K

Haha, self owned is the best owned.

situman

Yea I get about 15.2mpg combined on my GX and while it hurts at the pump, its a great vehicle. That said, no reason Lexus couldnt have implemented the Dual Direct injection system in the latest 1 millionth refresh to the GX since that system has been road tested for over a decade on the road.

gadgetman1

Yes...or gone with a for fuel efficient transmission that would have bumped the mpg closer to 18. Chevy & GMC pickups with a 6.2 V-8 are achieving 18-20 mpg, yet Toyota does nothing. Granted, GM trucks have more issues, but they have the right technology formula & Toyota doesn’t seem interested.

Toys4RJill

Toyota uses 8 speeds in their LC and LX. But GM uses cylinder deactivation and start stop. But start stop is annoying and is unwanted. Toyota has different gearing as well.