pbm317

No, it's not apples and oranges, you simply don't know/refuse to take any time to examine the cars. Anyone who has done even a minute of comparison and shopping between the two will be able to see that the true top Telluride (at the moment) is the SX with the substantial Prestige Package. And the top Palisade is the Limited, I threw in the hitch to make it similarly equipped. I left off the main slew of dealer accessories for garnishes etc.

You're the one comparing apples and oranges if you're trying to go Telluride SX (without Prestige) to the Palisade Limited.

pbm317

No clue, maybe different cost structures of having to build in the US (Telluride) vs combining with Korean market production volume in Korea for the Palisade?

mmarshall

It's apples and oranges. Respectfully, we are simply going to disagree. Won't be the first time...may not be the last.

pbm317

Well, respectfully, everyone will disagree with you. Won't be the first time... won't be the last.

SW17LS

No, you said "the top level Palisade is substantially more than the top level Telluride" and that is just incorrect.

LexBob2

That's what I read.

tex2670

The point is that you can't just look at the list of trim levels. You have to look at the content.

The Telluride SX is cheaper than the Palisade Limited by $1,500-$2,000. BUT the Palisade Limited has no available options; the SX has an additional package available that makes the overall content almost equal (except for a couple of features that have been repeatedly mentioned in this thread), and then makes the Kia cost more.

It's pretty darn easy to open up 2 different internet tabs and make the 2 cars "apples to apples". Especially if you just load up the 2 cars with every option available. There's no more apples to apples than that.

You are entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts.

mmarshall

My point is that it's difficult to tell the facts in this case because the two vehicles have different trim levels and pricing. All you have done is present more complexities.

And, frankly, I don't really care which one is slightly cheaper or more expensive than the other. Where it will matter most is to the actual buyers of these vehicles......and, given the actual rate at which they are scooping them up by the truckful (Hyundai and Kia dealers are having a hard time keeping either one in stock), the people buying or leasing them don't care that much, either.

I don't normally speak for others, but with bitkahuna having originally brought up the subject of the Kia (apparently) being more than the Hyundai in the first place, I'd wager that he probably wouldn't care much, either, if he really wanted one and was in the market for one. If he can afford a G90, he can certainly afford whatever these cost.

tex2670

Well, it's not for you or I to determine what @bitkahuna can or can't afford, or what he should or shouldn't care about, and even if he can afford something, dismissing his question or concern about the price of a car that is within his budget.

mmarshall

I'm not disagreeing with you. I mentioned him because he first brought up the issue of the Telluride/Palisade price comparison. My point was (if you bothered to read my post) that whether the average Telluride or Palisade differ in price will probably mean little to the average consumer, who is grabbing up both of these vehicles like free beer at Clancy's. In fact, bit probably won't be looking at another vehicle until his lease runs out.

bitkahuna

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mmarshall, i can and do frequently ask questions that have nothing to do with my circumstances, preferences, etc.

i've seen it written repeatedly that the telluride is more expensive than the palisade in similar levels of equipment. I just wasn't sure why.

and yes, i haven't done a technical analysis of trim levels... some of us are still working for a living and don't have time.

mmarshall

Sure...we all do.

Most buyers, working or otherwise, probably won't care.....they simply want the vehicle, equipped the way they want it, at a price they can afford.

BTW, the Telluride/Palisade is (arguably) the most successful new vehicle the Koreans have introduced in the American market since the late-80s Hyundai Excel (which was actually a Mitsubishi design....the Precis). That vehicle, due mainly to its super-low price, sold in huge numbers....until word got out, even in the days before the Internet and social-media, that it was a piece of junk.

bitkahuna

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not relevant to my question, but ok.

it's great the h/k have a new 'hit' but seems like they're seriously production constrained and toyota will continue to massively outsell them.

mmarshall

Palisades are currently built in South Korea.......Tellurides at West Point, GA. The real question, at least as I see it, is will these high-demand sales continue for both vehicles, or is it just a current fad that will wear off with time? That is probably not an easy question to answer at this point, and Hyundai/Kia management needs to carefully consider this before committing to more Telluride/Palisade plants, whether in the U.S. or other countries...although, naturally, it would be nice if the Palisade-production was added here, with American jobs. The Highlander, of course, has been a hit from Day One and, with time, has not shown any signs of slowing down....management can safely commit to its production.

SW17LS

I think they will continue to sell well, obviously this current situation of markups and tight inventory will change.