Kia Telluride and Hyundai Palisade Are Getting Pricier Already
#106
Lexus Champion
Whie Jill can answer for herself on the question of a Telluride at full price (I won't presume to do that), I will point out two things. First, part of replacing a totaled vehicle will be insurance money, not hers (whatever the residual value of the totaled vehicle was.....she gets a settlement-check for that). Second, she doesn't have to replace it with a Telluride. There are plenty of other good competitors.....some of which are not currently selling at full price.
#107
Super Moderator
Absolutely. Mark Twain put it best:
"Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure nineteen [pounds] nineteen [shillings] and six [pence], result happiness. Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure twenty pounds ought and six, result misery."
"Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure nineteen [pounds] nineteen [shillings] and six [pence], result happiness. Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure twenty pounds ought and six, result misery."
#108
Lexus Champion
Sorry. Not playing “what if’s” or “someone’s else’s” shoes. I am answering from my own life and perspective, my own experience. I have not needed a car since I was in my 20s. So from my experience, I would just wait. (If you can’t respect that) just move on. If you want to share what you would do, feel free
If you will not pay MSRP under any circumstance whatsoever, even if it saves you money overall, that's certainly your prerogative.
#109
Super Moderator
Whie Jill can answer for herself on the question of a Telluride at full price (I won't presume to do that), I will point out two things. First, part of replacing a totaled vehicle will be insurance money, not hers (whatever the residual value of the totaled vehicle was.....she gets a settlement-check for that). Second, she doesn't have to replace it with a Telluride. There are plenty of other good competitors.....some of which are not currently selling at full price.
#110
Lexus Fanatic
that's great self-control... and with the cars, and likely everything, the ability to "delay gratification" is admirable. But if we're all about wealth, you wouldn't have 4 vehicles because to me you're "wasting" a load of money on insurance, maintenance, taxes, etc. but each to their own.
I once read a person is rich whose means exceed their wants. accumulating wealth is fine and can be intoxicating and addicting, but 'hoarding' wealth far beyond ones conceivable life needs to me is a terrible and immoral. Not saying you're doing that. Once i feel set in my financial picture, i plan to give away everything else and may say **** it and give more anyway because our lifespan is of course, unknown.
I once read a person is rich whose means exceed their wants. accumulating wealth is fine and can be intoxicating and addicting, but 'hoarding' wealth far beyond ones conceivable life needs to me is a terrible and immoral. Not saying you're doing that. Once i feel set in my financial picture, i plan to give away everything else and may say **** it and give more anyway because our lifespan is of course, unknown.
I cant imagine why somebody would want to be so enthusiastic about cars and spend so much of their time focused on cars yet not have any desire to have anything but older economy cars. I totally get that in people who have no interest in cars.
Its not about price point either, there are lots of great cars at all price points, there are even greater value used great cars...
#111
Lexus Fanatic
Thread Starter
Exactly. While the ability to delay gratification and self control are admirable, the purpose of exercising those attributes to that degree is what I don't understand. It's like being healthy (as in not needing to lose weight) with plenty of money to pay for food, yet refusing to eat when you're hungry. Whats the purpose of refusing to grant ones self something when there is no reason not to?
I cant imagine why somebody would want to be so enthusiastic about cars and spend so much of their time focused on cars yet not have any desire to have anything but older economy cars. I totally get that in people who have no interest in cars.
Its not about price point either, there are lots of great cars at all price points, there are even greater value used great cars...
I cant imagine why somebody would want to be so enthusiastic about cars and spend so much of their time focused on cars yet not have any desire to have anything but older economy cars. I totally get that in people who have no interest in cars.
Its not about price point either, there are lots of great cars at all price points, there are even greater value used great cars...
In contrast, I also find new cars appealing. Very interesting. And new tech. New styles. New designs But cars are a money drain, a depreciating asset, so my common sense(just my opinion) kicks in and realizes that just going out and buying a new is not the prudent thing to do.
For yourself, you are wired differently, you like leasing. You like changing your car every three years. What fun is it to get a car, pay interest, then just give it up, after a lifetime of doing this way...you own nothing....but you get to have a new car all time (passion *for you* in its own right too)..But I get it, this is how you are wired. Four new cars doing the same objective for me (above) would never work, too expensive. A lease, no way.
So, paying full MSRP for a KIA Telluride...., if you want to advocate that...do it. If you feel a car is so worth it to pay it, then do it , great....it’s your passion to do it.....not for me...(wired differently). .....I would never ever pay full price for something, if I don’t have to.
Last edited by Toys4RJill; 01-24-20 at 08:37 AM.
#112
Lexus Champion
That's about what it was on the 19s as well, so that sounds right. Oddly enough, my 16 Highlander Hybrid cost more than my 19. The premium for the hybrid on the 16 was nearly $6k. For 17 they reduced that premium to less than $2k. My 19 has a few more features than my 16 did, but I paid considerably less for it.
#113
Lexus Fanatic
Because you are wired differently. I like cars, I like having two cars as my options when I wake each morning I leave my building and there are my two different choices, two that are fundamentally and completely different (1 a V8 body on frame, the other a 4 banger economy car). Two that I own which means, I can wake up and do whatever I like. To me, that enhances ones wealth and quality of life. That is a passion in its own right. If I want a hatch back for stuff that has a stiffer suspension I can do that too (but he will need something to drive so he will take mine) If I want to drive a Lexus LX (old one) that too.
As for the Palisade, my local dealer has one Limited showing in stock, I may swing down and check it out.
#116
Lexus Fanatic
I've driven them before. I've always driven models off the lot, they dont even have a demo.
#117
Lexus Fanatic
Thread Starter
I hope whomever gets that Palisade gets it with a little as possible miles. To me, that is special. I think they are made in S Korea as well, something I would value a little bit more than the KIA (or vice versa)
#118
Lexus Champion
Out of curiosity I looked at the inventory of a Hyundai dealer near me and they are showing 20 Palisades. 17 were actual photographs of cars on the lot and 3 were stock photos. Assuming their site is updated it looks like a pretty good selection of a hot selling new SUV.
#119
Regarding inventory around Chicago. Palisade - 386 total, 131 Limited. Telluride - 83 total, 10 SX.
Edit: at a Kia dealer now, checking out another Stinger... Telluride S - $2995 market adjustment + $995 blinker fluid, for a cool $4k over MSRP. At least that’s what they’re asking.
Edit: at a Kia dealer now, checking out another Stinger... Telluride S - $2995 market adjustment + $995 blinker fluid, for a cool $4k over MSRP. At least that’s what they’re asking.
Last edited by stasek; 01-24-20 at 10:59 AM.
#120
Lexus Champion
Strong sales.
https://www.motor1.com/news/394745/d...de-production/
By: Anthony Alaniz
Helping Kia win SUV converts is its slew of awards, including the 2020 North American Utility of the Year, beating out the Hyundai Palisade, its corporate sibling, and the gorgeous Lincoln Aviator. But the prestigious title wasn’t the only award for Kia’s new SUV.
One area where the Telluride doesn’t beat the Palisade is on price. From the start, the Kia has been more expensive, and even after a slight price increase to both, the Kia is still the more expensive offering, though that doesn’t appear to be slowing interest. Last week, a Kia spokesperson said the Telluride is “on deep back order,” and the company is “averaging 7-8 day supply nationwide.” The Telluride now starts at $33,060, including destination.
The Telluride’s first-year success has Kia thinking of expanding Telluride variants. There are rumors of a more luxurious trim along with an off-road package. There are even rumors of a long-wheelbase version, too. Either way, Kia has a popular new SUV, and it’d be a shame if the company didn’t capitalize on that.
Source: MotorGraph.com via The Korean Car Blog
https://www.motor1.com/news/394745/d...de-production/
Strong Telluride Demand Forces Kia To Boost Production To 100,000
Jan 24, 2020 at 9:52amBy: Anthony Alaniz
This is a good problem to have.
Kia has a problem. Too many people want the Telluride. Terrible problem to have, right? Well, Kia held a conference call earlier this week announcing it’d increase Telluride production to 100,000 a year, anticipating demand to remain high, according to a new report from MotorGraph.com. That’s above the number of Tellurides sold in the U.S. last year, but the three-row SUV was only on sale for 11 months, and crossovers and SUVs are still sales leaders.Kia Is Finding Success With The Telluride:
Kia Telluride Could Get Posh Trim Level, Off-Road Package: Report Telluride sales started slowly in February but quickly jumped to over 5,000 a month for most of the year. For the last quarter of 2019, sales were over 6,000 a month, with Kia selling a total of 58,604 Tellurides for the year. That’s a strong outing for an all-new three-row SUV that has to compete against the Ford Explorer that sold 184,653 units in 2019, though the latest Explorer did suffer delays due to manufacturing problems.Helping Kia win SUV converts is its slew of awards, including the 2020 North American Utility of the Year, beating out the Hyundai Palisade, its corporate sibling, and the gorgeous Lincoln Aviator. But the prestigious title wasn’t the only award for Kia’s new SUV.
One area where the Telluride doesn’t beat the Palisade is on price. From the start, the Kia has been more expensive, and even after a slight price increase to both, the Kia is still the more expensive offering, though that doesn’t appear to be slowing interest. Last week, a Kia spokesperson said the Telluride is “on deep back order,” and the company is “averaging 7-8 day supply nationwide.” The Telluride now starts at $33,060, including destination.
The Telluride’s first-year success has Kia thinking of expanding Telluride variants. There are rumors of a more luxurious trim along with an off-road package. There are even rumors of a long-wheelbase version, too. Either way, Kia has a popular new SUV, and it’d be a shame if the company didn’t capitalize on that.
Source: MotorGraph.com via The Korean Car Blog
Last edited by tex2670; 01-24-20 at 12:47 PM.