2021 Cadillac Escalade
03-01-20, 03:59 PM
#287
Lexus Fanatic
Keep your old cars in good shape lol. Progress is marching forward whether you like it or not.
03-01-20, 04:53 PM
#288
Well not all new trends are good. I do not know anyone who actually likes the current trend of slapping giant obnoxious grilles onto cars that once had classy styling. The Escalade was probably the original and the worst offender when it debuted with ghetto grille, and I am glad the new one did not retain this ridiculous styling. Hopefully the whole trend gets reversed industry wide.
03-01-20, 04:54 PM
#289
Lexus Fanatic
Well not all new trends are good. I do not know anyone who actually likes the current trend of slapping giant obnoxious grilles onto cars that once had classy styling. The Escalade was probably the original and the worst offender when it debuted with ghetto grille, and I am glad the new one did not retain this ridiculous styling. Hopefully the whole trend gets reversed industry wide.
03-01-20, 06:37 PM
#291
Lexus Fanatic
Don't want to get too far off topic (we're already far enough off as it is) but my late father was like that. He was (seriously) addicted to early-to-mid-1960s Chrysler products, particularly with the durable 3.7L Slant-Six and the smaller 4.5L and 5.2L V8s. He liked their drivetrains, unibody/solidness and torsion/leaf suspension, even though I found them noisy, unrefined, lousy carburetors, and with sub-standard drum brakes. That's one reason while, when I was still living at home with him, I first learned to drive on Plymouth Valiant slant-sixes with both manual and automatic transmissions. He drove strictly Valiants and the earlier Valiant-based Barracudas for some 25 years, up till his passing from cancer in 1988....and refused to own ANY vehicle with emission controls. He never liked the idea of my switching to Buicks in college (he considered them mush-mobiles), but they were clearly my favorite brand back then.
Last edited by mmarshall; 03-01-20 at 06:42 PM.
03-01-20, 06:39 PM
#292
Lexus Fanatic
Good point, AJT. 
You hit the nail on the head......newer is not always better.
But, even there, I think there are some limits. I would never want another vehicle with a carburetor, breaker-point ignition, pre-clearcoat paint, drum brakes, or a non-synchronized manual shift.
You hit the nail on the head......newer is not always better.But, even there, I think there are some limits. I would never want another vehicle with a carburetor, breaker-point ignition, pre-clearcoat paint, drum brakes, or a non-synchronized manual shift.
03-01-20, 06:58 PM
#293
Lexus Fanatic
03-01-20, 07:00 PM
#294
Lexus Fanatic
Except that when you adjust for inflation, vehicle prices are not up and are in fact if anything down.
03-01-20, 07:08 PM
#295
Lexus Fanatic
People are also tricked/influenced into leasing more than ever before. The lower end luxury brand names were never even a question in my younger days. Now I hear about cheap leases and average car prices that don’t reflect what average people actually making Saw a RC F sport with all the options for $699 and 48mo. Buying something at that price point barely gets a Camry or anything at the average price point of a new buy. Just a different world today.
03-01-20, 07:33 PM
#296
Lexus Fanatic
Leases have existed for the last 30+ years and leasing was just as big a part of financing luxury cars 20 years ago as it is today.
I remember the days of Ford/Lincoln’s Red Carpet lease, GMAC SmartLease...both in the late 80s early 90s
$699 is a terrible deal for an RC F Sport. Was it an RC-F?
I remember the days of Ford/Lincoln’s Red Carpet lease, GMAC SmartLease...both in the late 80s early 90s
$699 is a terrible deal for an RC F Sport. Was it an RC-F?
03-01-20, 07:48 PM
#297
buy a manual if you want direct connection, modern automatics arent connected
funny thing is he would look the other way if i did the opposite and did grocery getting in my viper. But its frowned upon when you do it in a truck for some reason.
Last edited by 4TehNguyen; 03-01-20 at 08:00 PM.
03-01-20, 08:09 PM
#298
Lexus Fanatic
03-07-20, 09:28 AM
#299
Lexus Fanatic
Some people do not like to drive or embrace new styles. Nothing wrong with that. I kinda don't like the new tablet styled Toyota cars they are not doing. I don't really like the new LX refresh compared to the LX570 upon debut. Sometimes it takes time to embrace stuff. Not really a fan of all the nanny stuff.
03-07-20, 09:34 AM
#300
Lexus Fanatic
It simply becomes tiresome whenever there is a thread where some new design is debuted we have to endure the thread being taken over by commentary from the same 4-5 people about old car designs and how theyre better and how they dont like this feature or that feature..and how all of this was done better 20 years ago...its quite annoying.
We have forums where old models and old ways of doing things are discussed. This is happening in EVERY thread in CarChat about a new model right now. Every one. Discussion of the new Escalade turns into complaining about gearshifts being connected to transmissions. Discussion of the S450 turns into a discussion about how carmakers should use spare tires like they used to. On and on and on.
We have forums where old models and old ways of doing things are discussed. This is happening in EVERY thread in CarChat about a new model right now. Every one. Discussion of the new Escalade turns into complaining about gearshifts being connected to transmissions. Discussion of the S450 turns into a discussion about how carmakers should use spare tires like they used to. On and on and on.