New 2021 Chrysler Pacifica Refresh adds AWD and new "Pinnacle" Trim
02-06-20, 06:27 PM
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We’ve talked about this before. Pull down car seats are not safe in a modern world. There are much stricter requirements for car seats now, and it’s not feasible to build them into a car. Plus requirements are always changing, and anything built into a car would be quickly obsolete
What I have seen which is smart is a built in BOOSTER, Volvo’s have that and that’s very slick. But built in harness car seats just aren’t feasible today.
Don’t argue, I have young kids and I know all the requirements and you clearly don’t.
What I have seen which is smart is a built in BOOSTER, Volvo’s have that and that’s very slick. But built in harness car seats just aren’t feasible today.
Don’t argue, I have young kids and I know all the requirements and you clearly don’t.
I clearly stated that I wasn't bringing up the subjects discussed before. But, given what engineers know today, there is a lot more technology that simply didn't exist back then with those previous seats.
Last edited by mmarshall; 02-06-20 at 06:38 PM.
02-06-20, 06:32 PM
#17
Lexus Test Driver
looks nice, i can't wait to see what a pile of crap it turns out to be lol
02-06-20, 06:37 PM
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02-06-20, 07:53 PM
#19
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Thread Starter
In the forums, newer models seem to be better. Still not likely to roll the dice again lol.
02-06-20, 08:05 PM
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I think i know why the pacifica has crap build quality. It's made in Windsor, Ontario... called once "Earth's rectum" 
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/x...place-on-earth
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/x...place-on-earth
02-06-20, 08:11 PM
#21
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Thread Starter
Sounds like a plausible hypothesis lol
02-06-20, 08:17 PM
#22
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^^^ An insulting and somewhat obscene/NWS article....clearly insulting to those who live there. And, if Windsor has become a dump, in my view, it is at least partly because the auto companies farmed so many jobs out to semi-slave-labor conditions overseas. In fact, another Canadian auto plant (Oakville), not that far away, is scheduled to be shut down by Ford, just adding to the problem.
Last edited by mmarshall; 02-06-20 at 08:24 PM.
02-06-20, 08:31 PM
#23
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The article is 4 yrs old for one thing and dead on the money. Windsor Ontario has always been a dump. And i thought that article was funny.
02-07-20, 08:28 AM
#24
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This has to be a misprint:
18 inch brakes? On a minivan?
For reference, the front rotors on a 911 GT2 RS clubsport are 16.1", and the largest rotors ever fitted to a production vehicle are the 17.3" ones on the Lamborghini Urus.
FCA says AWD models tip the scales at 4,883 pounds, a substantial 362-pound weight increase over front-wheel-drive models. Part of that's the extra driveline componentry, but it's also due to an enlarged 18-inch brake package, self-sealing tires and unique front and rear suspension calibrations that include a new rear stabilizer bar.
For reference, the front rotors on a 911 GT2 RS clubsport are 16.1", and the largest rotors ever fitted to a production vehicle are the 17.3" ones on the Lamborghini Urus.
02-07-20, 08:35 AM
#25
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Thread Starter
Yeah I’m sure that’s a misprint
02-07-20, 01:14 PM
#26
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Pillows are not recommended by any safety group, as they affect the seatbelt and airbag's job to properly restrain someone in an accident. A body should be upright in a seat without any bulges are extra spaces. Dozing off with your head against the headrest is fine.
The facelift gets rid of the goofy, criss-cross lines up front. A huge improvement, but the ever-lagging reliability issues are an immediate disqualification.
The facelift gets rid of the goofy, criss-cross lines up front. A huge improvement, but the ever-lagging reliability issues are an immediate disqualification.
02-09-20, 01:49 PM
#28
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Thread Starter
Yep, they kept Stow n Go while adding AWD.
02-09-20, 04:27 PM
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