AE86's Real Successor
#1
AE86's Real Successor
This has been on my mind for a long time. I do not understand the hype behind the Toyota 86/BRZ/FRS. The marketing behind this is to claim that it is the successor of the AE86 .
The AE86 was just the sprinter version of the Toyota Corolla that came out during the 80s. So then why are people comparing two different series of cars by names?
I think that the recent Corollas are the real descendants of the AE86 because they are from the exact line. The 86 is just in name only . Why hasn't the car enthusiast community ever got excited when the Corolla got sportier and meaner again? I'm sure there is good tuning potential in the recent model that Toyota gave. Lol I would be laughing if Toyota ever created a sportier version of the Corolla again
Toyota Corolla E80
Toyota Corolla GTS
Toyota Corolla 2020 sedan model
BRZ/FRS/86
The AE86 was just the sprinter version of the Toyota Corolla that came out during the 80s. So then why are people comparing two different series of cars by names?
I think that the recent Corollas are the real descendants of the AE86 because they are from the exact line. The 86 is just in name only . Why hasn't the car enthusiast community ever got excited when the Corolla got sportier and meaner again? I'm sure there is good tuning potential in the recent model that Toyota gave. Lol I would be laughing if Toyota ever created a sportier version of the Corolla again
Toyota Corolla E80
Toyota Corolla GTS
Toyota Corolla 2020 sedan model
BRZ/FRS/86
Last edited by laiyukchun; 02-07-20 at 02:02 AM. Reason: Proper names given in American market
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#4
Yes but Toyota built the GT86 to be the spiritual successor to the AE86. Mazda didn't build the AE86 but Toyota did and Toyota marketed the FRS/BRZ/GT86 to carry the torch. You ever drive a Corolla? Especially an older model? Its completely different than an 86. Its frankly insulting to the lineage...
#6
Originally Posted by laiyukchun
I didn't create the thread to hate on the 86. The comparison just never made sense to me in the first place. 86 was just in name and GT was for another for their legendary cars.
Corolla is just an appliance to get from A to B.
#7
the BRZ/GT86 isn't even a toyota at all, the AE86 has no true spiritual successor yet... although i really wish it did
edit: that being said, the BRZ is a very fun little sports car and definitely isn't 'slow' as long as you keep the engine revving
edit: that being said, the BRZ is a very fun little sports car and definitely isn't 'slow' as long as you keep the engine revving
Last edited by Stroock639; 02-07-20 at 12:57 AM.
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#9
Seems like an odd thing to cherry-pick as a reason for it to be a successor. Frameless windows are pretty much the standard for coupes these days. I think that the 86's frameless windows are nothing but a reflection of general auto trends than Toyota intentionally harkening back to the Celica.
#10
Drive a FRS/BRZ then drive a new Corolla sorry but there's no comparison imo. If the Corolla was RWD maybe it would be close. Different driving dynamics, no one really cares about a Sporty Corolla except non car enthusiasts who are easily wowed by badges and visual mods. The Corolla is a solid daily driver and nothing else imo.
#11
Seems like an odd thing to cherry-pick as a reason for it to be a successor. Frameless windows are pretty much the standard for coupes these days. I think that the 86's frameless windows are nothing but a reflection of general auto trends than Toyota intentionally harkening back to the Celica.
#12
Originally Posted by Lexus2000
Intentional or not the 86 is more like the Celica than Corolla including having a larger displacement engine the Corolla always had a 1.6 or 1.8 litre. The 86 is also a bit more upscale like the Celica the Corolla bare bones and no independent rear suspension.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.aut...red-initial-d/
Toyota themselves consider the GT86 the spiritual successor to the AE86.
#13
The AE86 is a Corolla your comment is confusing.
Of course, for marketing gravitas because the AE86 became a legend for various reasons.
Toyota makes this comparison all the time.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.aut...red-initial-d/
Toyota themselves consider the GT86 the spiritual successor to the AE86.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.aut...red-initial-d/
Toyota themselves consider the GT86 the spiritual successor to the AE86.
#14
Originally Posted by Lexus2000
The AE86 is a Corolla your comment is confusing.Of course, for marketing gravitas because the AE86 became a legend for various reasons.
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I don't get why people are denying that the GTS/AE86 isn't part of the Corolla lineup. It was really born from the 80s Corolla models but was given a sportier treatment. I mean you can say that the interior is similar with the BRZ hence why.
But my point is that if the AE86 was from the Corolla, then Toyota could've done the same thing with the recent 2020 Corolla. Just give the Corolla better suspension, RWD, two doors and we would get the AE20 or AE2020.
https://jalopnik.com/why-the-humble-...-ra-1820683252
The Toyota Camry is an everyday car for getting to point A to B but that doesn't mean you don't have these cars used by professional race car drivers. They are used by NASCAR drivers. The Corolla itself is used by professionals as well.
https://www.toyota.com/racing/nascar...Course-Ringers
https://www.carscoops.com/2018/11/to...racing-car-uk/
But my point is that if the AE86 was from the Corolla, then Toyota could've done the same thing with the recent 2020 Corolla. Just give the Corolla better suspension, RWD, two doors and we would get the AE20 or AE2020.
https://jalopnik.com/why-the-humble-...-ra-1820683252
The Toyota Camry is an everyday car for getting to point A to B but that doesn't mean you don't have these cars used by professional race car drivers. They are used by NASCAR drivers. The Corolla itself is used by professionals as well.
https://www.toyota.com/racing/nascar...Course-Ringers
https://www.carscoops.com/2018/11/to...racing-car-uk/