Genesis beats Lexus and ranks #1 brand in JD Power Dependability
02-19-20, 07:38 PM
#106
Pole Position
I'll stick w/ Lexus........
02-19-20, 07:40 PM
#107
Racer
Second this. For a high performance brand, Porsche has historically been near the top and often right behind Lexus in reliability rankings. I am surprised to see them fall to 4th. It has been a long time since they were out of the top two or three.
02-20-20, 09:56 AM
#109
Pole Position
Not sure I agree with this, both CR and JDP numbers typically tend to see reliability go UP as models get late in the lifecycle, as major issues tend to get worked out, less bugs, etc. Could argue that the GS is high due to the extremely long lifecycle it has had with even older mechanicals etc. Whereas the Genesis is about to be replaced already (Has been out since 2015MY overall under the Hyundai brand).
02-20-20, 10:57 AM
#110
02-20-20, 12:26 PM
#111
Pole Position
02-20-20, 02:17 PM
#112
Lexus Fanatic
The issue, though, is that today's Korean vehicles are NOT repeating history....in fact, anything BUT that. The poor engineering and QC on these vehicles began to change about 20 years ago, around the turn of the century. As Mike728 (correctly) points out, it is the public's mind on Korean vehicles that is sometimes stuck in the past....not the vehicles themselves.
02-20-20, 03:08 PM
#113
I view Lexus as a Toyota = no prestige. Known for reliability and quality, but not much else. If I wanted a vehicle for 10+ years, yup Toyota/Lexus all day and everyday. If I actually want something that is enjoyable and excites me, definitely nothing Toyota or Lexus makes today.
02-20-20, 03:23 PM
#114
Lexus Fanatic
There is definitely a level of prestige to a Lexus. I can give many many examples of times when I’ve been in situations with people and the Lexus draws attention.
02-20-20, 03:39 PM
#115
Lexus Fanatic
There is definitely a level of prestige to a Lexus. I think the brand has two levels of it. The lower end and then the upper end. I also think people lose focus of what the strengths of the brand are and what their competitive advantage really is.
02-20-20, 05:56 PM
#116
02-20-20, 06:43 PM
#117
Lexus Champion
02-20-20, 07:21 PM
#119
Lexus Fanatic
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02-20-20, 07:25 PM
#120
Lexus Fanatic
There is no way that an LS can be compared to any American-market Toyota....though, true, the LS is sold in the Japanese market as the Toyota Celsior.If, after you have given them a ride in it, they still think it is like an American-market Toyota, then I agree with JDR76....look for some new colleagues LOL.
Last edited by mmarshall; 02-20-20 at 07:28 PM.