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Old 06-30-20, 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
What is it about today's full-size pickups that they have to have a console wide enough to land an airplane on?
have you noticed how big (and wide) the demographic of these vehicles are meant for? i feel small sitting in these trucks!
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Default 2021 Ford F-150 starts at $30,635, according to early dealer guide

Base truck is up $195 — and here's what the hybrid costs




The usual culprit has pulled off its usual caper — that being CarsDirect getting a look at an early dealer guide and passing on the particulars we're after, this time the pricing for the 2021 Ford F-150. We're told base price for the entry-level two-wheel-drive XL regular cab is $30,635 after the $1,695 destination, making the 2021 pickup a mere $195 more expensive than the 2020 model. That puts the Ford $540 above the 2020 Chevrolet Silverado regular cab long bed in two-wheel drive. Ram doesn't make a single cab even in its Tradesman work series, so comparisons there are unfair. On the lower end of 40 possible trim combinations in the 2021 F-150 lineup, CarsDirect writes that the math shows price increases from $195 to $290. The XLT SuperCrew with a 5.5-foot bed starts at $42,005, a $290 bump over the current model. Adding four-wheel drive raises the price by the same $3,495 that it costs on this year's truck.

At the upper end of the trim tree, the site cautions that "buyers at the top of the F-150 range will see substantially higher prices," but CarsDirect didn't publish any numbers and said it's "still working on our full analysis."

We have a few digits concerning the hybrid, however. The electric-assist that brings with it an onboard generator and as much as 700 miles of driving on a single tank of gas is priced on a sliding scale, being less expensive as a shopper moves up the trim ladder. Available as an option on all but the base trim and the Raptor, it will cost $2,500 to hop from either the 5.0-liter Coyote V8 or 3.5-liter EcoBoost V6 to the 3.5-liter EcoBoost Hybrid V6. It will cost $3,300 to get into the hybrid from the 2.7-liter EcoBoost V6, or $4,495 to make the switch from the base 3.3-liter V6. Seeing that the 2020 SuperCrew Limited starts at $69,430 after destination, it's easy to see how next year's pickup plumps the MSRP range up to $75,000 before a finicky buyer does any fiddling.

We'll get more details closer to the on-sale date, or whenever CarsDirect gets another look at an order guide. Based on the low-end numbers, initial impressions are that the 2021 F-150 has given up nothing to its competitors.
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a loaded hybrid f150 is gonna be 80k
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Old 07-22-20, 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by timmy0tool
have you noticed how big (and wide) the demographic of these vehicles are meant for? i feel small sitting in these trucks!

All else equal, though, the larger the console, the less room there is in the front seats for oversized bodies.
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
a loaded hybrid f150 is gonna be 80k
common in the truck market but no one ever pays anywhere near MSRP on a a truck. I got my 67.5k MSRP truck for 50k before TTL
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
a loaded hybrid f150 is gonna be 80k
Your mind is really getting blown today over the rising costs of vehicles! hahaha.

Honestly, reading that quote, I think its probably going to be more than that too. lol.
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Old 07-22-20, 11:41 AM
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Makes sense, loaded Expedition is $85k!
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Your mind is really getting blown today over the rising costs of vehicles! hahaha.
both fords.

i don't have anything specifically against ford, having owned a couple but their prices really seem to have gotten out of hand. I guess it's the old trick of high msrp with lots of margin for the dealers to play shenanigans.
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Their prices for these vehicles are totally in line with competitors. The GM and Ram trucks can get just as expensive, and the GM big SUVs are just as expensive as the Expedition.
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
both fords.

i don't have anything specifically against ford, having owned a couple but their prices really seem to have gotten out of hand. I guess it's the old trick of high msrp with lots of margin for the dealers to play shenanigans.
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Their prices for these vehicles are totally in line with competitors. The GM and Ram trucks can get just as expensive, and the GM big SUVs are just as expensive as the Expedition.
As I see it, one reason Ford and GM get away with the outrageous prices that they do on this class of vehicle (full-size and full-size XL SUVs), is that FCA simply doesn't have a large BOF competitor in this class. FCA Management has repeatedly turned down requests from their staffs to produce one, even though it would be relatively simple to do from the Ram 1500/2500 platforms. I see little sense in not offering one.....it would take at least some of the traffic from Ford and GM where they currently have that slice of the market cornered, and put some downward pressure on prices. Remember my comment a couple of days ago about auto marketers doing (and not doing) so many questionable things? IMO, this is just one more example.
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I don't think it has anything to do with FCA. These vehicles sell very well, so the price is not outrageous.

FCA will have the Jeep Grand Wagoneer coming that will be a full sized BOF SUV.
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
I don't think it has anything to do with FCA. These vehicles sell very well, so the price is not outrageous.
Part of the reason they do as well as they do is that there is no third-choice from FCA. While there are rare exceptions, most of the time, more competition means more pressure to lower prices.

FCA will have the Jeep Grand Wagoneer coming that will be a full sized BOF SUV.
I'll wait and see what the final specs are on the physical dimensions and interior space, but I will be surprised if it is as big as a Tahoe/Expedition, much less a Suburban/Expedition EL.
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The FCA option would be just as expensive. Ram trucks don't keep Ford from being able to price the F150 to max out at $85k.

The bottom line is, thats just what that sort of vehicle costs.
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
The bottom line is, thats just what that sort of vehicle costs.
The bottom line is exactly that....the bottom line. Ford and GM both make their highest profit per vehicle on full-sized BOF trucks and SUVs, and you can bet the rent money that certainly is not a coincidence.
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Yeah, they make money. Thats how business works, you price something as high as the market will bear and make as much money as you can.
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