Next time may be a little different.
03-06-20, 06:51 PM
#46
Lexus Fanatic
I have. I didn’t find it confusing at all.
03-09-20, 11:00 PM
#47
Racer
Have you test-driven a Tesla 3? Almost nothing in that car is intuitive.....except for a couple of steering column controls, and even they don't necessarily work like most stalks. What's more, the 3, even in standard non-performance versions, has an insane amount of low-RPM torque....it is definitely not a machine for careless or inattentive drivers. Give yourself plenty of room from traffic ahead or you can get in trouble very quickly.
I find the Tesla UI well laid out and easy to use, especially with voice control for typing. For those of us that prefer the old touchscreen in the earlier LSes over the Remote Touch Controller, you'd think a big touchscreen would be a welcomed evolution. At least a big touchscreen feels familiar like a phone or tablet. I remember driving the F-Pace and loved how you can customize the screen and lay out the controls to your liking.
Big screens give carmakers greater latitude and freedom to be creative and redesign controls through software. You can have as many seat memory profiles as you want in software. If a certain layout is unpopular, it's much easier to push out a software update and change the interface than try to move physical buttons and switches. I used to like tons of buttons because it felt like I was piloting a space craft, and I thought the flip down "control panel" on the 2007 GS was so cool, but now I view the assortment of buttons as cluttered.
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03-10-20, 07:23 AM
#48
Lexus Fanatic
Thread Starter
03-10-20, 07:42 AM
#49
Racer
Obviously, that displacement-quote does not apply to BEVs. It was originally cloned, back in the late 40s and 50s, by those who first got into the street-rod scene and by those who ran illegal moonshine in their cars to try and evade the Feds. Tricks like special cams, headers, manifolds, exhaust systems, superchargers, axle-ratios, etc....helped, but, in general, all else equal, more and larger cylinders meant more power.
Actually, my 2006 Tundra was probably when I first started to appreciate torque, so much that my license plate read TRQADDQ (as in torque addict). My buddies never read it right and still tease me about it to this day in good fun.
03-10-20, 07:47 AM
#50
LOL. The insane torque (and surge in speed) was exactly why I had to ge one! It is ironic, I never subscribed to the old adage, "there's no replacement for displacement". I felt displacement was the lazy/easy way for power. Instead, I was hooked on horsepower/high RPM and marveled at what an Integra Type R, S2K, or NSX could do with VTEC up to 9000 RPM. EVs/Tesla made me appreciate torque.
03-10-20, 07:53 AM
#51
Lexus Fanatic
Thread Starter
T@mmarshall , I didn't know the history of the slogan. I always thought it originated in the 90s as a response to the import tuner scene.
In fact, much of both the postwar Harley motorcycle-club and street-rod scenes (with the chopped '32 Ford Deuce coupes and Ford/Chevy V8s) originated from ex-fighter-pilots who, no longer having their planes to be aggressive with, turned to bikes and modded-cars instead)
03-10-20, 09:22 AM
#52
Lexus Fanatic
iTrader: (20)
what is this thread about? mmarshall, is it that your next vehicle may be different from what you've had before? we know you're considering a cuv of course.
03-10-20, 11:32 AM
#53
Lexus Fanatic
Thread Starter
That's part of it........but also to state why I took some of the views I did in the past (which led to a lot of conflict with some other Car Chat posters during the recent GM strike and sedan/plant-discontinuations). I'm also becoming less-picky about what I drive in the future...vehicle-type, color, options, etc.... In fact, we are very fortunate, here in the U.S., to be able to afford the new vehicles we have, period, and, on top of it, be blessed in abundance with cheap gas (by world standards). To my understanding, only two countries in the world currently undercut our gas prices here in the U.S......One, Venezuela, because Chavez and Maduro bankrupted the country with huge subsidies for their oil industry, and, Two, Saudi Arabia, because they are an independent nation and sit right on top of the world's largest known oil reserves.
03-10-20, 01:03 PM
#54
Lexus Champion
That's part of it........but also to state why I took some of the views I did in the past (which led to a lot of conflict with some other Car Chat posters during the recent GM strike and sedan/plant-discontinuations). I'm also becoming less-picky about what I drive in the future...vehicle-type, color, options, etc.... In fact, we are very fortunate, here in the U.S., to be able to afford the new vehicles we have, period, and, on top of it, be blessed in abundance with cheap gas (by world standards). To my understanding, only two countries in the world currently undercut our gas prices here in the U.S......One, Venezuela, because Chavez and Maduro bankrupted the country with huge subsidies for their oil industry, and, Two, Saudi Arabia, because they are an independent nation and sit right on top of the world's largest known oil reserves.
03-10-20, 02:40 PM
#55
Lexus Fanatic
Thread Starter
Typically I keep a car anywhere between three and six years...usually four or five. Not only that, but some what I'm looking at now would not be a serious candidate for another year or two at least, simply because they are new and untested products from manufacturers, like Ford and GM, with known histories of teething problems.
With all due respect, if you think this thread is producing too many needless posts, fine.....there are a lot of other threads in Car Chat.
03-10-20, 02:56 PM
#56
Lexus Fanatic
03-10-20, 03:14 PM
#57
Lexus Fanatic
Thread Starter
I sometimes am tempted to use that feature, but I'm not that sort of person. I've only used it once, about three years ago, and that was on a true jerk....someone who apparently no longer posts on CL. Besides, I'm used to people disagreeing with me....time sometimes proves me right, or proves me wrong.
I saw a beautiful white Corsair today....I instantly thought of you.
Have you sampled or test-driven a Corsair yet? It's done on the Ford Escape platform, but considerably more refined, both inside and out. Gone are the days when Lincoln SUVs were simply rebadged Fords with a little more trim.
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03-10-20, 03:18 PM
#58
Lexus Fanatic
Yes, tough to beat the Corsair in that compact/luxury crossover-SUV segment, though I have not sampled its primary competitor yet...the Cadillac XT4. That's something else I have to add to my sample-list...might get to that in a couple of weeks, though I've got taxes, military-base-ID issues, Real-ID drivers' license, housework, and several other things to take care of as well.....can't spend all day on just new vehicles for myself.
Have you sampled or test-driven a Corsair yet? It's done on the Ford Escape platform, but considerably more refined, both inside and out. Gone are the days when Lincoln SUVs were simply rebadged Fords with a little more trim.
Have you sampled or test-driven a Corsair yet? It's done on the Ford Escape platform, but considerably more refined, both inside and out. Gone are the days when Lincoln SUVs were simply rebadged Fords with a little more trim.
03-10-20, 03:21 PM
#59
Lexus Fanatic
Thread Starter
03-10-20, 04:31 PM
#60
Lexus Champion
Who said "needless posts"? Not me. If I thought there were needless posts, I would say it or exit. No need to read in subliminal messages. I'd like it to be an Epic Thread.