MM Retro Write-Up....1984 Pontiac Fiero
05-22-20 | 08:17 PM
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Sad news 
......the Fiero Museum in Michigan was taken out by the floodwaters of a burst dam.
https://www.freep.com/story/news/loc...ng/5234159002/
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SANFORD – Timothy Evans loves Pontiac Fieros so much that he amassed his own collection of the short-lived sports cars. He even opened a museum to showcase and sell the vehicles.
So when floodwaters from the Tittabawassee River began creeping toward his business earlier this week, 73-year-old Evans scrambled to move his cars to dry ground, where he thought they’d be safe.
Then the Edenville and Sanford dams breached Tuesday, inundating parts of the Midland County village and flooding his beloved cars. Of Evans’ 20 Fieros, only one, the vehicle he drove home Tuesday, was untouched.
“It’s devastating,” he said Thursday outside his decimated shop and museum, Fieros Forever, Michigan.
More: Whitmer asks Trump for formal emergency declaration for Midland County flooding
More: Mid-Michigan flooding crests at 35 feet, Whitmer requests FEMA help: What we know
A block over, a 1987 Fiero lay flipped on its roof. A pace car from the 1984 Indianapolis 500 — a Fiero that sat idle in a barn for a decade before Evans bought it from a man who'd fixed it up — had come to rest against a fire hydrant, debris poking out of its hood. Behind Evans’ shop, a Fiero ripped off a hoist by the floods lay upside down alongside another car on its roof.
Pontiac Fiero's are spread around the flooded downtown in Sanford, Michigan May 20, 2020 after the popular Fieros Forever car museum was destroyed when flood waters overwhelmed the town when the Sanford dam failed. (Photo: Kelly Jordan, Detroit Free Press)
Car enthusiasts across the country lamented the loss this week, sharing photos and news coverage on Facebook of several of the Fieros sitting in floodwaters, at least one nearly submerged, before the water had receded.
Evans has been collecting and selling Fieros for more than a decade. He praises the car as advanced for its time.
"It had a chassis that was made out of steel," he said. "They built the car in five sub assemblies, and then they put it into this mill and drill machine."
The Michigan Fiero Club says roughly 370,000 of the cars were built from the Fiero’s debut in 1984 until GM ended production in 1988.
Evans and his wife bought the building that housed his business on West Saginaw Road in the early 2000s. They spent years fixing up the dilapidated structure before he opened the museum and shop.
He acquired a mix of Fieros, some that were ready to drive and others that remained on display. An architect by trade, Evans handled the minor fixes himself and worked with a mechanic to get the Fieros running.
The museum drew collectors from as far as Scotland and Hong Kong, Evans said.
"The Blue Books were cheap. ... A $10,000 car was worth about $2,500," he said. "But if you run into a collector, he might pay $10,000."
A buried Fiero along Saginaw Rd. in Sanford Michigan Thursday, May 21, 2020. The Sanford dam that held the Tittabawassee river failed causing massive flooding destroying homes and businesses. (Photo: Kirthmon F. Dozier, Detroit Free Press)
Evans said Thursday that he hadn't yet contacted his insurance company about the flooded cars, but he’d already learned that the damage to his building isn't covered.
The back walls of the shop were blown out. A roof torn off another building slumped over the side of the structure.
Inside, Evans' daughter had moved valuable items to higher ground before the dam broke, but the flood "swept everything off the walls," he said. Six glass cases holding model cars and original dealer magazines were either destroyed or waterlogged.
What’s more: Evans was ready to sell his Fieros after suffering a stroke a few years back. He'd put his cars and parts up for auction, but the coronavirus pandemic delayed the sales.
......the Fiero Museum in Michigan was taken out by the floodwaters of a burst dam.https://www.freep.com/story/news/loc...ng/5234159002/
Midland County floods destroy man’s Pontiac Fiero collection: 'It's devastating'
Angie Jackson, Detroit Free PressPublished 5:26 p.m. ET May 21, 2020 | Updated 8:31 p.m. ET May 21, 20200:54
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SANFORD – Timothy Evans loves Pontiac Fieros so much that he amassed his own collection of the short-lived sports cars. He even opened a museum to showcase and sell the vehicles.
So when floodwaters from the Tittabawassee River began creeping toward his business earlier this week, 73-year-old Evans scrambled to move his cars to dry ground, where he thought they’d be safe.
Then the Edenville and Sanford dams breached Tuesday, inundating parts of the Midland County village and flooding his beloved cars. Of Evans’ 20 Fieros, only one, the vehicle he drove home Tuesday, was untouched.
“It’s devastating,” he said Thursday outside his decimated shop and museum, Fieros Forever, Michigan.
More: Whitmer asks Trump for formal emergency declaration for Midland County flooding
More: Mid-Michigan flooding crests at 35 feet, Whitmer requests FEMA help: What we know
A block over, a 1987 Fiero lay flipped on its roof. A pace car from the 1984 Indianapolis 500 — a Fiero that sat idle in a barn for a decade before Evans bought it from a man who'd fixed it up — had come to rest against a fire hydrant, debris poking out of its hood. Behind Evans’ shop, a Fiero ripped off a hoist by the floods lay upside down alongside another car on its roof.
Pontiac Fiero's are spread around the flooded downtown in Sanford, Michigan May 20, 2020 after the popular Fieros Forever car museum was destroyed when flood waters overwhelmed the town when the Sanford dam failed. (Photo: Kelly Jordan, Detroit Free Press)
Car enthusiasts across the country lamented the loss this week, sharing photos and news coverage on Facebook of several of the Fieros sitting in floodwaters, at least one nearly submerged, before the water had receded.
Evans has been collecting and selling Fieros for more than a decade. He praises the car as advanced for its time.
"It had a chassis that was made out of steel," he said. "They built the car in five sub assemblies, and then they put it into this mill and drill machine."
The Michigan Fiero Club says roughly 370,000 of the cars were built from the Fiero’s debut in 1984 until GM ended production in 1988.
Evans and his wife bought the building that housed his business on West Saginaw Road in the early 2000s. They spent years fixing up the dilapidated structure before he opened the museum and shop.
He acquired a mix of Fieros, some that were ready to drive and others that remained on display. An architect by trade, Evans handled the minor fixes himself and worked with a mechanic to get the Fieros running.
The museum drew collectors from as far as Scotland and Hong Kong, Evans said.
"The Blue Books were cheap. ... A $10,000 car was worth about $2,500," he said. "But if you run into a collector, he might pay $10,000."
A buried Fiero along Saginaw Rd. in Sanford Michigan Thursday, May 21, 2020. The Sanford dam that held the Tittabawassee river failed causing massive flooding destroying homes and businesses. (Photo: Kirthmon F. Dozier, Detroit Free Press)
Evans said Thursday that he hadn't yet contacted his insurance company about the flooded cars, but he’d already learned that the damage to his building isn't covered.
The back walls of the shop were blown out. A roof torn off another building slumped over the side of the structure.
Inside, Evans' daughter had moved valuable items to higher ground before the dam broke, but the flood "swept everything off the walls," he said. Six glass cases holding model cars and original dealer magazines were either destroyed or waterlogged.
What’s more: Evans was ready to sell his Fieros after suffering a stroke a few years back. He'd put his cars and parts up for auction, but the coronavirus pandemic delayed the sales.
05-23-20 | 08:54 AM
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Sad news ......the Fiero Museum in Michigan was taken out by the floodwaters of a burst dam.
https://www.freep.com/story/news/loc...ng/5234159002/
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Pontiac Fiero museum destroyed in flood
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SANFORD – Timothy Evans loves Pontiac Fieros so much that he amassed his own collection of the short-lived sports cars. He even opened a museum to showcase and sell the vehicles.
So when floodwaters from the Tittabawassee River began creeping toward his business earlier this week, 73-year-old Evans scrambled to move his cars to dry ground, where he thought they’d be safe.
Then the Edenville and Sanford dams breached Tuesday, inundating parts of the Midland County village and flooding his beloved cars. Of Evans’ 20 Fieros, only one, the vehicle he drove home Tuesday, was untouched.
“It’s devastating,” he said Thursday outside his decimated shop and museum, Fieros Forever, Michigan.
More: Whitmer asks Trump for formal emergency declaration for Midland County flooding
More: Mid-Michigan flooding crests at 35 feet, Whitmer requests FEMA help: What we know
A block over, a 1987 Fiero lay flipped on its roof. A pace car from the 1984 Indianapolis 500 — a Fiero that sat idle in a barn for a decade before Evans bought it from a man who'd fixed it up — had come to rest against a fire hydrant, debris poking out of its hood. Behind Evans’ shop, a Fiero ripped off a hoist by the floods lay upside down alongside another car on its roof.
Pontiac Fiero's are spread around the flooded downtown in Sanford, Michigan May 20, 2020 after the popular Fieros Forever car museum was destroyed when flood waters overwhelmed the town when the Sanford dam failed. (Photo: Kelly Jordan, Detroit Free Press)
Car enthusiasts across the country lamented the loss this week, sharing photos and news coverage on Facebook of several of the Fieros sitting in floodwaters, at least one nearly submerged, before the water had receded.
Evans has been collecting and selling Fieros for more than a decade. He praises the car as advanced for its time.
"It had a chassis that was made out of steel," he said. "They built the car in five sub assemblies, and then they put it into this mill and drill machine."
The Michigan Fiero Club says roughly 370,000 of the cars were built from the Fiero’s debut in 1984 until GM ended production in 1988.
Evans and his wife bought the building that housed his business on West Saginaw Road in the early 2000s. They spent years fixing up the dilapidated structure before he opened the museum and shop.
He acquired a mix of Fieros, some that were ready to drive and others that remained on display. An architect by trade, Evans handled the minor fixes himself and worked with a mechanic to get the Fieros running.
The museum drew collectors from as far as Scotland and Hong Kong, Evans said.
"The Blue Books were cheap. ... A $10,000 car was worth about $2,500," he said. "But if you run into a collector, he might pay $10,000."
A buried Fiero along Saginaw Rd. in Sanford Michigan Thursday, May 21, 2020. The Sanford dam that held the Tittabawassee river failed causing massive flooding destroying homes and businesses. (Photo: Kirthmon F. Dozier, Detroit Free Press)
Evans said Thursday that he hadn't yet contacted his insurance company about the flooded cars, but he’d already learned that the damage to his building isn't covered.
The back walls of the shop were blown out. A roof torn off another building slumped over the side of the structure.
Inside, Evans' daughter had moved valuable items to higher ground before the dam broke, but the flood "swept everything off the walls," he said. Six glass cases holding model cars and original dealer magazines were either destroyed or waterlogged.
What’s more: Evans was ready to sell his Fieros after suffering a stroke a few years back. He'd put his cars and parts up for auction, but the coronavirus pandemic delayed the sales.
......the Fiero Museum in Michigan was taken out by the floodwaters of a burst dam.https://www.freep.com/story/news/loc...ng/5234159002/
Midland County floods destroy man’s Pontiac Fiero collection: 'It's devastating'
Angie Jackson, Detroit Free PressPublished 5:26 p.m. ET May 21, 2020 | Updated 8:31 p.m. ET May 21, 20200:54
0:58
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Pontiac Fiero museum destroyed in flood
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SANFORD – Timothy Evans loves Pontiac Fieros so much that he amassed his own collection of the short-lived sports cars. He even opened a museum to showcase and sell the vehicles.
So when floodwaters from the Tittabawassee River began creeping toward his business earlier this week, 73-year-old Evans scrambled to move his cars to dry ground, where he thought they’d be safe.
Then the Edenville and Sanford dams breached Tuesday, inundating parts of the Midland County village and flooding his beloved cars. Of Evans’ 20 Fieros, only one, the vehicle he drove home Tuesday, was untouched.
“It’s devastating,” he said Thursday outside his decimated shop and museum, Fieros Forever, Michigan.
More: Whitmer asks Trump for formal emergency declaration for Midland County flooding
More: Mid-Michigan flooding crests at 35 feet, Whitmer requests FEMA help: What we know
A block over, a 1987 Fiero lay flipped on its roof. A pace car from the 1984 Indianapolis 500 — a Fiero that sat idle in a barn for a decade before Evans bought it from a man who'd fixed it up — had come to rest against a fire hydrant, debris poking out of its hood. Behind Evans’ shop, a Fiero ripped off a hoist by the floods lay upside down alongside another car on its roof.
Pontiac Fiero's are spread around the flooded downtown in Sanford, Michigan May 20, 2020 after the popular Fieros Forever car museum was destroyed when flood waters overwhelmed the town when the Sanford dam failed. (Photo: Kelly Jordan, Detroit Free Press)
Car enthusiasts across the country lamented the loss this week, sharing photos and news coverage on Facebook of several of the Fieros sitting in floodwaters, at least one nearly submerged, before the water had receded.
Evans has been collecting and selling Fieros for more than a decade. He praises the car as advanced for its time.
"It had a chassis that was made out of steel," he said. "They built the car in five sub assemblies, and then they put it into this mill and drill machine."
The Michigan Fiero Club says roughly 370,000 of the cars were built from the Fiero’s debut in 1984 until GM ended production in 1988.
Evans and his wife bought the building that housed his business on West Saginaw Road in the early 2000s. They spent years fixing up the dilapidated structure before he opened the museum and shop.
He acquired a mix of Fieros, some that were ready to drive and others that remained on display. An architect by trade, Evans handled the minor fixes himself and worked with a mechanic to get the Fieros running.
The museum drew collectors from as far as Scotland and Hong Kong, Evans said.
"The Blue Books were cheap. ... A $10,000 car was worth about $2,500," he said. "But if you run into a collector, he might pay $10,000."
A buried Fiero along Saginaw Rd. in Sanford Michigan Thursday, May 21, 2020. The Sanford dam that held the Tittabawassee river failed causing massive flooding destroying homes and businesses. (Photo: Kirthmon F. Dozier, Detroit Free Press)
Evans said Thursday that he hadn't yet contacted his insurance company about the flooded cars, but he’d already learned that the damage to his building isn't covered.
The back walls of the shop were blown out. A roof torn off another building slumped over the side of the structure.
Inside, Evans' daughter had moved valuable items to higher ground before the dam broke, but the flood "swept everything off the walls," he said. Six glass cases holding model cars and original dealer magazines were either destroyed or waterlogged.
What’s more: Evans was ready to sell his Fieros after suffering a stroke a few years back. He'd put his cars and parts up for auction, but the coronavirus pandemic delayed the sales.
05-23-20 | 08:58 AM
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Well, that's what the article called it. That's the author's description, not mine
Pontiac Fiero museum destroyed in flood
SANFORD – Timothy Evans loves Pontiac Fieros so much that he amassed his own collection of the short-lived sports cars. He even opened a museum to showcase and sell the vehicles
“It’s devastating,” he said Thursday outside his decimated shop and museum, Fieros Forever, Michigan
SANFORD – Timothy Evans loves Pontiac Fieros so much that he amassed his own collection of the short-lived sports cars. He even opened a museum to showcase and sell the vehicles
“It’s devastating,” he said Thursday outside his decimated shop and museum, Fieros Forever, Michigan
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05-23-20 | 09:32 AM
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The worst part is that he was about to go to auction with his collection, but it was postponed by coronavirus. Looks like he didn't have flood insurance, so his building will be a total uninsured loss. Maybe cars too. What a shame.
05-23-20 | 10:09 AM
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Times were different then, you could still fix cars yourself, and there was enough room around the engine to easily repair things. Now, I can't even see the spark plugs on my current car, and instead of adjusting the engine by sound, we now rely on a computer to tell us when something is wrong.
06-20-20 | 04:06 PM
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I heard horror stories of how terrible GM cars were when I was a kid. That’s what pushed me towards Japanese cars.
That’s crazy the warranty was only one year. I can see why people moved away from GM products. I agree with you about the Saturn division as it was the best decision they made at the time. It’s a shame they screwed up the brand.
The retro reviews are awesome. I enjoy all of your reviews since you have driven such a wide variety of cars, both new and old.
That’s crazy the warranty was only one year. I can see why people moved away from GM products. I agree with you about the Saturn division as it was the best decision they made at the time. It’s a shame they screwed up the brand.
The retro reviews are awesome. I enjoy all of your reviews since you have driven such a wide variety of cars, both new and old.
06-20-20 | 05:25 PM
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My sentiments exactly! While I feel for the "museum" owner, he might as well been collecting Pintos, Gremlins or Vegas! In fact, someone should create a museum of the worst autos of all time and put all these in it. I'm sure CL members could nominate many more inductees!
06-20-20 | 05:27 PM
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06-20-20 | 05:52 PM
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I'll second that nomination! What is smart about a micro-car that gets the same gas mileage as a compact? If one is willing to give up all the room and safety that a larger vehicle provides, shouldn't they get something in return?
06-21-20 | 12:58 PM
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I can't imagine that, That's not good now & engines last much longer now than in the '70's
06-21-20 | 01:00 PM
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My sentiments exactly! While I feel for the "museum" owner, he might as well been collecting Pintos, Gremlins or Vegas! In fact, someone should create a museum of the worst autos of all time and put all these in it. I'm sure CL members could nominate many more inductees!
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