Driver caught speeding at 191 MPH - Toronto
05-11-20, 12:31 PM
#16
Not if the cop, called ahead to another cop waiting down the road. I didn't read the article but they'll usually set up some sort of trap with multiple police cars.
05-11-20, 03:50 PM
#18
Lexus Champion
Richy Rich will have the book thrown at him once the trial starts. A prosecutor lives to make examples of people like this. The judge here is probably going to make sure he doesn't drive for many years. This won't be a traffic court thing, it's now a criminal offence. Permanent criminal record, if he's found guilty.
Note the time that this happened: 10:00 pm on a Saturday night. Think about that. Night time with reduced visibility. You can't see much of anything except a blur of lights and road.
He's lucky he didn't end up in jail right away. But only because he didn't collide with another innocent party on the road and may not have been impaired. Daddy better get some good "affluenza" lawyers ready and lined up.
Funny that this forum has its resident speed freaks advocating for this type of "high performance" German road system driving.
Note the time that this happened: 10:00 pm on a Saturday night. Think about that. Night time with reduced visibility. You can't see much of anything except a blur of lights and road.
He's lucky he didn't end up in jail right away. But only because he didn't collide with another innocent party on the road and may not have been impaired. Daddy better get some good "affluenza" lawyers ready and lined up.
Funny that this forum has its resident speed freaks advocating for this type of "high performance" German road system driving.
Last edited by MattyG; 05-11-20 at 03:56 PM.
05-11-20, 03:58 PM
#19
Lexus Fanatic
05-11-20, 04:28 PM
#20
Lexus Test Driver
Thread Starter
also i did a little google earthing of the QEW and there are several stretches of very long arrow straight totally flat stretches of 6 lane road, there's even a 12+ mile straight which is over twice as long as the ehra-lessien test track where several world record speed attempts have been made
idk exactly where on the road this happened but it seems like he picked the
the lucky ones are those who got to witness and hear that marvelous high revving hand assembled 6.2 liter V8 roar past... that's art in motion right there
05-11-20, 04:37 PM
#21
Lexus Test Driver
Thread Starter
05-11-20, 04:43 PM
#22
Lexus Test Driver
Thread Starter
hey i'm pretty sure the *** kicking was the first thing i said i'd do, and to even get a 191 mph speeding ticket means you're winning at some level (that admittedly doesn't hold up quite as well when it's your kid doing it lol)
05-11-20, 04:54 PM
#23
Lexus Test Driver
Originally Posted by MattyG
Richy Rich will have the book thrown at him once the trial starts. A prosecutor lives to make examples of people like this. The judge here is probably going to make sure he doesn't drive for many years. This won't be a traffic court thing, it's now a criminal offence. Permanent criminal record, if he's found guilty.
Note the time that this happened: 10:00 pm on a Saturday night. Think about that. Night time with reduced visibility. You can't see much of anything except a blur of lights and road.
He's lucky he didn't end up in jail right away. But only because he didn't collide with another innocent party on the road and may not have been impaired. Daddy better get some good "affluenza" lawyers ready and lined up.
Funny that this forum has its resident speed freaks advocating for this type of "high performance" German road system driving.
Note the time that this happened: 10:00 pm on a Saturday night. Think about that. Night time with reduced visibility. You can't see much of anything except a blur of lights and road.
He's lucky he didn't end up in jail right away. But only because he didn't collide with another innocent party on the road and may not have been impaired. Daddy better get some good "affluenza" lawyers ready and lined up.
Funny that this forum has its resident speed freaks advocating for this type of "high performance" German road system driving.
05-11-20, 05:09 PM
#24
Lexus Test Driver
100% of the ppl on this forum break the law every day - speeding that is.
The speed limits are idiotic. There is probably no law that is broken more often.
Maybe this kid has a racing background or advanced driving training. Who knows?
He was driving fast on an empty highway in a car that was primarily engineered to do just that.
There are broken Civics with fart can exhausts and cut springs driving close to 100mph daily.
Personally I think the C63 is probably way more stable even at 190+.
Cars were doing 80mph easy 50yrs ago, we should be doing double that at least. The main problem is lack of investment in infrastructure and the negative propaganda that speeding is the root of all accidents.
Automakers are making cars with incredible performance and that will only accelerate as EV become more mainstream. Speed laws and road maintenance/infrastructure need to be improved. Just copy what works in other countries.
The speed limits are idiotic. There is probably no law that is broken more often.
Maybe this kid has a racing background or advanced driving training. Who knows?
He was driving fast on an empty highway in a car that was primarily engineered to do just that.
There are broken Civics with fart can exhausts and cut springs driving close to 100mph daily.
Personally I think the C63 is probably way more stable even at 190+.
Cars were doing 80mph easy 50yrs ago, we should be doing double that at least. The main problem is lack of investment in infrastructure and the negative propaganda that speeding is the root of all accidents.
Automakers are making cars with incredible performance and that will only accelerate as EV become more mainstream. Speed laws and road maintenance/infrastructure need to be improved. Just copy what works in other countries.
Last edited by RNM GS3; 05-11-20 at 05:14 PM.
05-11-20, 05:15 PM
#25
Lexus Fanatic
You wouldn't be "quite proud" if it were your own child.
05-11-20, 06:36 PM
#26
Lexus Champion
100% of the ppl on this forum break the law every day - speeding that is.
The speed limits are idiotic. There is probably no law that is broken more often.
Maybe this kid has a racing background or advanced driving training. Who knows?
He was driving fast on an empty highway in a car that was primarily engineered to do just that.
There are broken Civics with fart can exhausts and cut springs driving close to 100mph daily.
Personally I think the C63 is probably way more stable even at 190+.
Cars were doing 80mph easy 50yrs ago, we should be doing double that at least. The main problem is lack of investment in infrastructure and the negative propaganda that speeding is the root of all accidents.
Automakers are making cars with incredible performance and that will only accelerate as EV become more mainstream. Speed laws and road maintenance/infrastructure need to be improved. Just copy what works in other countries.
The speed limits are idiotic. There is probably no law that is broken more often.
Maybe this kid has a racing background or advanced driving training. Who knows?
He was driving fast on an empty highway in a car that was primarily engineered to do just that.
There are broken Civics with fart can exhausts and cut springs driving close to 100mph daily.
Personally I think the C63 is probably way more stable even at 190+.
Cars were doing 80mph easy 50yrs ago, we should be doing double that at least. The main problem is lack of investment in infrastructure and the negative propaganda that speeding is the root of all accidents.
Automakers are making cars with incredible performance and that will only accelerate as EV become more mainstream. Speed laws and road maintenance/infrastructure need to be improved. Just copy what works in other countries.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Driving_licence_in_Germany
In Germany the driving licence "Führerschein" is a governmental privilege given to those who request a licence for any of the categories they desire. It is required for every type of motorised vehicle with the exception of the smallest mopeds below 50 cm³, with a speed limit of 25 km/h, as well as motorised bicycles. (Even for these, there is a minimum age of 15 years and a small mandatory driving school course). The types of licences one may obtain are the same in all the European Economic Area. See European driving licence. The minimum age to obtain a driving licence is: 16 years for a restricted motorcycle up to 125 cm³, 17 years for a car with a legal guardian, 18 years for unrestricted car and 21 years for buses and cargo vehicles.
Obtaining a driving license
The German driving licence can be obtained after finishing driving school and passing a two-stage test, the theory test and road test. Before being allowed to take these tests an eye-exam must have been performed and a first-aid course (usually lasts 8 hours) completed.The learner driver's training usually takes place in legally authorised and mostly privately-owned, for-profit driving schools. The driving school handles all the necessary paperwork for the students, such as: applying for a licence, registering for tests etc.
The theoretical part of the education comprises lessons at the driving school, held by legally authorised driving instructors, typically in the evening. The content and number of the lessons is set by law and depending on the type of licence the student wishes to acquire; a different number of lessons has to be attended. Remarkably enough, a student does not have to attend different lessons, they could theoretically attend the same lesson several times to meet the criteria. Lessons are divided into general knowledge about road rules that anyone studying for any licence might attend and specialised lessons for certain types of vehicles. To prepare for the written theory test, students usually obtain a study package from the driving school which can consist of software programmes, textbooks and sample exam papers. Schools usually take responsibility for their students' success and thus keep track of class attendance and hand out sample exams for practising. The theory test is a multiple-choice test consisting of randomised questions from a published guidebook. Thus the questions and correct answers can be studied in advance.
Practical training also takes place with driving school instructors. Specially labelled and fitted vehicles are provided by the driving school. Cars are usually dual control (feature extra mirrors and pedals for the instructor so that they can take control of the vehicle in dangerous situations) since driving and parking maneuvers are taught on public roads. For motorcycles, the student operates the motorcycle on their own with a driving instructor following in another vehicle and giving instruction via radio. A certain number of practical and technical lessons has to be completed again depending on the type of vehicle. Obligatory lessons include a minimum number of lessons each driving on: the motorway Autobahn; rural areas, and in the dark. The actual number of lessons a student completes varies with individual skill. As the most difficult part of the driving test is usually urban driving, most lessons actually take place there, even though there is no mandated minimum for that.
If a student wishes to be tested in a car with an automatic transmission and sits the road test in such a car, a code or note will be added to the licence and the holder will only be permitted drive cars with an automatic transmission. A test passed on a manual transmission car also gives qualification to drive either manual or automatic.
Theoretical and practical training may be commenced at the same or different times. Some driving schools may insist a student attend a certain number of lessons before giving out appointments for driving lessons.
Both exams are held by an authorised inspector who visits the driving school for this purpose. Students must pass the theory test before sitting the road test, with no more than a twelve month gap between the two. During the road test, the driving instructor is present in the car with the assisting features of the driving school car deactivated or connected to audio signals and a warning light (if the instructor has to intervene, the test will result in failure.)
After each exam, results are immediately given to the students. In case of the road test, if the student meets all the required criteria, the licence is handed over by the inspector. Should the student, for any reason, not be allowed to hold the licence at the time of a successful test (for example because he has not yet reached the minimum age), the licence will be sent to the Kraftfahrzeug-Zulassungsbehörde (compare DMV DVLA) of the student's place of residence where it can be picked up as soon as the person becomes eligible. There are limits on the frequency and the time elapsed before failed tests can be reattempted.
The failure rate for driving tests in 2011 was 28%. Automobile associations have given the opinion that this is due to the low quality of the education at driving schools as it benefits their income if students take additional lessons after failing.[2]
For cars, people aged seventeen do not get a standard driving licence after passing all required tests. Instead a permission slip that only allows for driving a car under the supervision of persons meeting certain criteria as stated on the permission slip. The actual driving licence becomes available upon the person's eighteenth birthday.
The cost of obtaining a licence for driving a car is on average €1,400 (US$1,800 in September 2014) but varies widely according to an individual's skill, city and region.[3] Individual driving schools set their own prices. The total includes fees for: authorities and exams, learning materials, driving lessons and tuition.
05-11-20, 06:51 PM
#27
Lexus Test Driver
Thread Starter
05-11-20, 07:27 PM
#28
Lexus Test Driver
I'd have no problem raising speed limits as long as the same drivers license requires that Germany uses are adopted -- but then you'd be *****ing about that too, right?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Driving_licence_in_Germany
In Germany the driving licence "Führerschein" is a governmental privilege given to those who request a licence for any of the categories they desire. It is required for every type of motorised vehicle with the exception of the smallest mopeds below 50 cm³, with a speed limit of 25 km/h, as well as motorised bicycles. (Even for these, there is a minimum age of 15 years and a small mandatory driving school course). The types of licences one may obtain are the same in all the European Economic Area. See European driving licence. The minimum age to obtain a driving licence is: 16 years for a restricted motorcycle up to 125 cm³, 17 years for a car with a legal guardian, 18 years for unrestricted car and 21 years for buses and cargo vehicles.
The learner driver's training usually takes place in legally authorised and mostly privately-owned, for-profit driving schools. The driving school handles all the necessary paperwork for the students, such as: applying for a licence, registering for tests etc.
The theoretical part of the education comprises lessons at the driving school, held by legally authorised driving instructors, typically in the evening. The content and number of the lessons is set by law and depending on the type of licence the student wishes to acquire; a different number of lessons has to be attended. Remarkably enough, a student does not have to attend different lessons, they could theoretically attend the same lesson several times to meet the criteria. Lessons are divided into general knowledge about road rules that anyone studying for any licence might attend and specialised lessons for certain types of vehicles. To prepare for the written theory test, students usually obtain a study package from the driving school which can consist of software programmes, textbooks and sample exam papers. Schools usually take responsibility for their students' success and thus keep track of class attendance and hand out sample exams for practising. The theory test is a multiple-choice test consisting of randomised questions from a published guidebook. Thus the questions and correct answers can be studied in advance.
Practical training also takes place with driving school instructors. Specially labelled and fitted vehicles are provided by the driving school. Cars are usually dual control (feature extra mirrors and pedals for the instructor so that they can take control of the vehicle in dangerous situations) since driving and parking maneuvers are taught on public roads. For motorcycles, the student operates the motorcycle on their own with a driving instructor following in another vehicle and giving instruction via radio. A certain number of practical and technical lessons has to be completed again depending on the type of vehicle. Obligatory lessons include a minimum number of lessons each driving on: the motorway Autobahn; rural areas, and in the dark. The actual number of lessons a student completes varies with individual skill. As the most difficult part of the driving test is usually urban driving, most lessons actually take place there, even though there is no mandated minimum for that.
If a student wishes to be tested in a car with an automatic transmission and sits the road test in such a car, a code or note will be added to the licence and the holder will only be permitted drive cars with an automatic transmission. A test passed on a manual transmission car also gives qualification to drive either manual or automatic.
Theoretical and practical training may be commenced at the same or different times. Some driving schools may insist a student attend a certain number of lessons before giving out appointments for driving lessons.
Both exams are held by an authorised inspector who visits the driving school for this purpose. Students must pass the theory test before sitting the road test, with no more than a twelve month gap between the two. During the road test, the driving instructor is present in the car with the assisting features of the driving school car deactivated or connected to audio signals and a warning light (if the instructor has to intervene, the test will result in failure.)
After each exam, results are immediately given to the students. In case of the road test, if the student meets all the required criteria, the licence is handed over by the inspector. Should the student, for any reason, not be allowed to hold the licence at the time of a successful test (for example because he has not yet reached the minimum age), the licence will be sent to the Kraftfahrzeug-Zulassungsbehörde (compare DMV DVLA) of the student's place of residence where it can be picked up as soon as the person becomes eligible. There are limits on the frequency and the time elapsed before failed tests can be reattempted.
The failure rate for driving tests in 2011 was 28%. Automobile associations have given the opinion that this is due to the low quality of the education at driving schools as it benefits their income if students take additional lessons after failing.[2]
For cars, people aged seventeen do not get a standard driving licence after passing all required tests. Instead a permission slip that only allows for driving a car under the supervision of persons meeting certain criteria as stated on the permission slip. The actual driving licence becomes available upon the person's eighteenth birthday.
The cost of obtaining a licence for driving a car is on average €1,400 (US$1,800 in September 2014) but varies widely according to an individual's skill, city and region.[3] Individual driving schools set their own prices. The total includes fees for: authorities and exams, learning materials, driving lessons and tuition.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Driving_licence_in_Germany
In Germany the driving licence "Führerschein" is a governmental privilege given to those who request a licence for any of the categories they desire. It is required for every type of motorised vehicle with the exception of the smallest mopeds below 50 cm³, with a speed limit of 25 km/h, as well as motorised bicycles. (Even for these, there is a minimum age of 15 years and a small mandatory driving school course). The types of licences one may obtain are the same in all the European Economic Area. See European driving licence. The minimum age to obtain a driving licence is: 16 years for a restricted motorcycle up to 125 cm³, 17 years for a car with a legal guardian, 18 years for unrestricted car and 21 years for buses and cargo vehicles.
Obtaining a driving license
The German driving licence can be obtained after finishing driving school and passing a two-stage test, the theory test and road test. Before being allowed to take these tests an eye-exam must have been performed and a first-aid course (usually lasts 8 hours) completed.The learner driver's training usually takes place in legally authorised and mostly privately-owned, for-profit driving schools. The driving school handles all the necessary paperwork for the students, such as: applying for a licence, registering for tests etc.
The theoretical part of the education comprises lessons at the driving school, held by legally authorised driving instructors, typically in the evening. The content and number of the lessons is set by law and depending on the type of licence the student wishes to acquire; a different number of lessons has to be attended. Remarkably enough, a student does not have to attend different lessons, they could theoretically attend the same lesson several times to meet the criteria. Lessons are divided into general knowledge about road rules that anyone studying for any licence might attend and specialised lessons for certain types of vehicles. To prepare for the written theory test, students usually obtain a study package from the driving school which can consist of software programmes, textbooks and sample exam papers. Schools usually take responsibility for their students' success and thus keep track of class attendance and hand out sample exams for practising. The theory test is a multiple-choice test consisting of randomised questions from a published guidebook. Thus the questions and correct answers can be studied in advance.
Practical training also takes place with driving school instructors. Specially labelled and fitted vehicles are provided by the driving school. Cars are usually dual control (feature extra mirrors and pedals for the instructor so that they can take control of the vehicle in dangerous situations) since driving and parking maneuvers are taught on public roads. For motorcycles, the student operates the motorcycle on their own with a driving instructor following in another vehicle and giving instruction via radio. A certain number of practical and technical lessons has to be completed again depending on the type of vehicle. Obligatory lessons include a minimum number of lessons each driving on: the motorway Autobahn; rural areas, and in the dark. The actual number of lessons a student completes varies with individual skill. As the most difficult part of the driving test is usually urban driving, most lessons actually take place there, even though there is no mandated minimum for that.
If a student wishes to be tested in a car with an automatic transmission and sits the road test in such a car, a code or note will be added to the licence and the holder will only be permitted drive cars with an automatic transmission. A test passed on a manual transmission car also gives qualification to drive either manual or automatic.
Theoretical and practical training may be commenced at the same or different times. Some driving schools may insist a student attend a certain number of lessons before giving out appointments for driving lessons.
Both exams are held by an authorised inspector who visits the driving school for this purpose. Students must pass the theory test before sitting the road test, with no more than a twelve month gap between the two. During the road test, the driving instructor is present in the car with the assisting features of the driving school car deactivated or connected to audio signals and a warning light (if the instructor has to intervene, the test will result in failure.)
After each exam, results are immediately given to the students. In case of the road test, if the student meets all the required criteria, the licence is handed over by the inspector. Should the student, for any reason, not be allowed to hold the licence at the time of a successful test (for example because he has not yet reached the minimum age), the licence will be sent to the Kraftfahrzeug-Zulassungsbehörde (compare DMV DVLA) of the student's place of residence where it can be picked up as soon as the person becomes eligible. There are limits on the frequency and the time elapsed before failed tests can be reattempted.
The failure rate for driving tests in 2011 was 28%. Automobile associations have given the opinion that this is due to the low quality of the education at driving schools as it benefits their income if students take additional lessons after failing.[2]
For cars, people aged seventeen do not get a standard driving licence after passing all required tests. Instead a permission slip that only allows for driving a car under the supervision of persons meeting certain criteria as stated on the permission slip. The actual driving licence becomes available upon the person's eighteenth birthday.
The cost of obtaining a licence for driving a car is on average €1,400 (US$1,800 in September 2014) but varies widely according to an individual's skill, city and region.[3] Individual driving schools set their own prices. The total includes fees for: authorities and exams, learning materials, driving lessons and tuition.
I would mandate annual written test (online) and driving re-test every 2-5years.
Education and development of right behaviors during driving is what will reduce accidents not bogus speed traps.
