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Is it me drinking the proverbial Tesla Kool-aid or did the latest Mercedes Benz S class "adopt" a whole bunch of features that have been on a Tesla Model S for over 5 years now (some features even longer such as the minimalist interior and massive central screen)?
Don't get me wrong, I think the latest S class looks absolutely amazing on the inside, and the quality will be second to none, but I can't help but see so many things that were in a Tesla Model S for so long now. That doesn't take anything away from the S class. I think its an amazing car overall.
I think the exterior is boring looking - they decided to play it safe.
The latest Porsche Panamera also adopted the minimalist interior (much fewer buttons etc) and the Taycan of course followed that as well.
- Pop out door handles
- Massive central portrait oriented screen that has replaced the majority of the buttons, dials and switches
- Personalized driver profiles (seat heating, HVAC settings, suspension height settings, seat position, steering, mirror position etc). I think the Tesla system is even better as its connected to the key fob (don't know if that is the case with the S class, so this may be the same or not)
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Don't get me wrong, I think the latest S class looks absolutely amazing on the inside, and the quality will be second to none, but I can't help but see so many things that were in a Tesla Model S for so long now. That doesn't take anything away from the S class. I think its an amazing car overall.
I think the exterior is boring looking - they decided to play it safe.
The latest Porsche Panamera also adopted the minimalist interior (much fewer buttons etc) and the Taycan of course followed that as well.
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Is it me drinking the proverbial Tesla Kool-aid or did the latest Mercedes Benz S class "adopt" a whole bunch of features that have been on a Tesla Model S for over 5 years now (some features even longer such as the minimalist interior and massive central screen)?
- Pop out door handles
- Massive central portrait oriented screen that has replaced the majority of the buttons, dials and switches
- Personalized driver profiles (seat heating, HVAC settings, suspension height settings, seat position, steering, mirror position etc). I think the Tesla system is even better as its connected to the key fob (don't know if that is the case with the S class, so this may be the same or not)
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Hameed, they definitely moved strongly in the direction the Tesla S. but hey, Tesla took the name 'S' from Mercedes. i kid
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i believe tesla did what they did because teslas are a mobile software platform first, so having loads of buttons just doesn't make sense.
other manufacturers are slowly coming around, and in the case of high end luxury vehicles, they have little choice because of the HUGE number of features on these vehicles, and them being connected, and needing to be updateable.
no doubt older customers of bentleys and rolls royces are going to want ***** and buttons, and some of those will stick around (bentley pull stops!) for nostalgia/branding, but the trends are inevitable, and unstoppable.
i have to say i DON'T want a car that's all screens. i actually like buttons, *****, and toggles for climate, seating and infotainment in particular.
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i believe tesla did what they did because teslas are a mobile software platform first, so having loads of buttons just doesn't make sense.
other manufacturers are slowly coming around, and in the case of high end luxury vehicles, they have little choice because of the HUGE number of features on these vehicles, and them being connected, and needing to be updateable.
no doubt older customers of bentleys and rolls royces are going to want ***** and buttons, and some of those will stick around (bentley pull stops!) for nostalgia/branding, but the trends are inevitable, and unstoppable.
i have to say i DON'T want a car that's all screens. i actually like buttons, *****, and toggles for climate, seating and infotainment in particular.
on your tesla, are the seat movement controls on the seat, the door, or on the screen?
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To be fair, personalized settings are not new to the car industry. For a long time, Lexus had that linked to key fobs, but they didn't fully take advantage of it. I believe on Tesla, you still need to select your user profile when you enter the car. On the S class, it seems that you can do fingerprint, or it can recognize your voice, or it can recognize your face.
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Only if you have more than 2 profiles as you can save one profile per key fob. So with 2 key fobs, there is no selection required when you get in the car. Its tied to the key fob. You just get in the car, press the brake pedal, put the gear in D or R and go. No button press or anything. That's how all cars should be (this was 8 years ago......)!
None of this legacy stuff requiring you to press a button.
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If Mercedes didn't add the things that we are now saying they copied Tesla, would we be complaining they didn't? Tesla added a lot of cool stuff to there cars without a doubt, and now we come to expect it on new cars. The retracting door handles are now in practically every new and hip luxury car. If Mercedes didn't follow, we would be saying they aren't as cool.
Anyway, with the personalization, it seems that the MB system can also create profiles for you even when you are not the driver. Each seat as a profile and will customize the ambient lighting, massage, etc to that seat, even in the rear.
Anyway, with the personalization, it seems that the MB system can also create profiles for you even when you are not the driver. Each seat as a profile and will customize the ambient lighting, massage, etc to that seat, even in the rear.
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Well, most Teslas don't have key fobs and is attached to the Phone so you can have as many profiles as you want. People have put in multiple profiles that have different seating positions for longer drives or other situations so i'd expect other cars to do this as we transition to a keyfobless world ![Smilie](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
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I was being specific to the Model S and you can have more than 2 profiles.