2021 Mercedes S-Class (W223)
10-29-20, 03:09 PM
#406
Lexus Fanatic
Im watching the Autoguful video (which btw I like watching his reviews) and Im pretty sure the demographic of the S class buyers will find this new one extremely daunting. Touch capacitive buttons galore are going to freak out the 55+ audience. They will not know how to use 80% of the cars technology functions. That being said, if you are familiar with Mercedes products, then it won't be as bad as someone coming from another luxury brand
10-29-20, 03:34 PM
#408
10-29-20, 09:07 PM
#410
Lexus Fanatic
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Im watching the Autoguful video (which btw I like watching his reviews) and Im pretty sure the demographic of the S class buyers will find this new one extremely daunting. Touch capacitive buttons galore are going to freak out the 55+ audience. They will not know how to use 80% of the cars technology functions. That being said, if you are familiar with Mercedes products, then it won't be as bad as someone coming from another luxury brand
if you can talk you can control the features easily.
10-30-20, 04:58 AM
#412
Super Moderator
And I'm an early 40s geek who loves tech and has spent his entire career in IT. That doesn't bode well for the typically-much-older S-class customers.
10-30-20, 09:02 PM
#413
the voice recognition in my model 3 has been impressively good. in fact i almost never type. i just say where i want to go and it figures out. our gle350 mbux is also pretty good, though i say maybe 70% accuracy. i also tried radio and such on the model 3, also pretty impressed
our 2016 gl550 was trash, the system was stupid at best. the system in our 2016 gs350 wasn't impressive either. so i guess voice recognition might have took a leap in the past 2-3 years? and with all the smart devices these (Siri, Alexa, etc...) i think these systems will continue to improve drastically in the next couple of years
our 2016 gl550 was trash, the system was stupid at best. the system in our 2016 gs350 wasn't impressive either. so i guess voice recognition might have took a leap in the past 2-3 years? and with all the smart devices these (Siri, Alexa, etc...) i think these systems will continue to improve drastically in the next couple of years
10-31-20, 12:32 PM
#414
Lexus Champion
Well, the vent area sure is nicer on the outgoing one.
Cars suck now. You’re stuck with hybrid assist in either of these new ones, no thanks.
Different company but the new or newer Ram with mild hybrid assist was finniky and delivered 14MPG over a long term test. That’s almost LX bad mileage.
Cars suck now. You’re stuck with hybrid assist in either of these new ones, no thanks.
Different company but the new or newer Ram with mild hybrid assist was finniky and delivered 14MPG over a long term test. That’s almost LX bad mileage.
10-31-20, 01:11 PM
#415
Lexus Fanatic
Like I've said before, you would never even know the "hyrbid assist" was there if someone didn't tell you. Technology marches ever forward.
10-31-20, 01:26 PM
#416
Lexus Champion
My issue is the unnecessary complexity. The actual assist, fine I guess. A TT MB V8 is a monster to begin with and the six cylinder is pretty much enough too.
10-31-20, 01:34 PM
#417
Lexus Fanatic
The last thing you need to worry about in that car is the 48V electrical system adding to complexity LOL. That vehicle is nothing but complexity. People lease these for 3 years and give them back, you would have to be insane to buy one of these and keep it.
As I said before, it has a lot to do with the electrical system. You need the 48v system to run all of those electronics.
This system is the future, very shortly all new cars will have a 48v "mild hybrid" system.
As I said before, it has a lot to do with the electrical system. You need the 48v system to run all of those electronics.
This system is the future, very shortly all new cars will have a 48v "mild hybrid" system.
10-31-20, 02:09 PM
#418
Lexus Champion
The last thing you need to worry about in that car is the 48V electrical system adding to complexity LOL. That vehicle is nothing but complexity. People lease these for 3 years and give them back, you would have to be insane to buy one of these and keep it.
As I said before, it has a lot to do with the electrical system. You need the 48v system to run all of those electronics.
This system is the future, very shortly all new cars will have a 48v "mild hybrid" system.
As I said before, it has a lot to do with the electrical system. You need the 48v system to run all of those electronics.
This system is the future, very shortly all new cars will have a 48v "mild hybrid" system.
LOL yeah that crossed my mind too after my post. S-Class might as well be a rolling UFO.
Not to go OT but the Ram I mentioned for example was heavily, heavily criticized with the hybrid assist. All the Ram needs is the regular 5.7 Hemi, give me a break Chrysler.
10-31-20, 02:20 PM
#419
Lexus Fanatic
I red the review of the Ram. I think you're overstating it. And this technology will get better and better.
10-31-20, 02:32 PM
#420
Lexus Champion
For the sake of science, we spec'd the pricier engine, and we have to say, even at today's discounted premium, we wouldn't spend our own money on the electrically assisted Hemi. We averaged an underwhelming 14 mpg, a number that we matched during two weeks in a Ram without eTorque. (Our long-termer's fuel economy rises to 15 mpg if we omit our towing.) More disappointing than its performance, the 48-volt system proved just finicky enough for us to lose faith in it. The vast majority of the time, eTorque works exactly as intended, smoothing engine restarts and increasing the amount of time the V-8 is shut down in traffic. But the system periodically stumbled when refiring, and on a handful of occasions, it stalled the engine right as we were expecting the truck to accelerate. This rough behavior was sometimes accompanied by a warning light and an error message indicating that the system wasn't charging properly. And when an editor woke to find the truck's electrical system dead one morning, we couldn't shake the feeling that a leaky 48-volt system was the culprit. We never got an answer, as the Ram recovered with a jump-start and the dealer never identified the cause of the drained battery, the rough restarts, or the intermittent stalling.
Pass. At least on a FCA product.