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Old 05-14-20, 10:27 AM
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Lexus and Toyota are Ruling the Hybrid World
By Brett Foote

Toyota and Lexus have combined to sell 15 million hybrids since the birth of the Prius.

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Old 05-14-20, 06:16 PM
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I've never owned a hybrid, but have driven many for work. The most impressive hybrid I've driven was the GS450h...a kick in the pants! I was hoping Toyota would have developed an electric vehicle by now and I could replace at least one of my gas Toyota/Lexus vehicles with it. l wouldn't trust any other manufacturer's product in the hybrid or electric realm.

What I like about Toyota/Lexus is their business model/strategy for not racing new models to market at the expense of reliability. They are late with an electric offering, but one can bet it will be reliable when it finally arrives. The model will likely benefit from all the years of incrementally improving the current hybrid line-up, especially the plug-ins.
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Old 05-14-20, 06:24 PM
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They are not for everyone, but we’ve been very happy with the two we’ve had.
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Originally Posted by JDR76
They are not for everyone, but we’ve been very happy with the two we’ve had.
They do well indeed...family has two now. But I would hope they can do a performance hybrid, since they have the know-how. But hey, the TM3 is all the rage with EV buyers now.
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Hybrids were great 10-15 years ago now to me they are old news time to move on. At the very least Toyota should have graduated to plug in hybrids.
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Originally Posted by Lexus2000
Hybrids were great 10-15 years ago now to me they are old news time to move on. At the very least Toyota should have graduated to plug in hybrids.
Toyota does offer a plug-in Prius Prime, but I probably wouldn't want to drive something like that.....the front end looks like a scowling catfish.


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My parents had original RX400h back in the day. It leased better than RX330 so my dad got it. It actually had some reliability issues. Nothing too memorable about it.
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Congrats...but old news...Lexus let Tesla overtake them. As soon as Tesla came out with a electric car. Toyota should have brought one out the following month.
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Originally Posted by rogers2
Congrats...but old news...Lexus let Tesla overtake them. As soon as Tesla came out with a electric car. Toyota should have brought one out the following month.
7 years to respond and Toyota has done nothing.
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Toyota had a stake in Tesla and then sold it off 4 years ago. I wonder how much they regret their decision.
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It doesn't make sense at all that the Corolla hatchback gets the Hybrid 180 hp engine, while the Lexus CT200h, which is more expensive, still has the same 122 hp 1.8 engine of the Prius.

Toyota treats Lexus like trash!
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Lexus still sells the CT200h?
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I'd like to drive the best newest hybrids at some point to see how far they've improved in terms of seamlessness of the gas/electric transition. Ones i've driven in the past (about a 2011 RX450h, a Prius and Prius V - the big one) were pretty horrible to drive.

With gas so cheap, it's a good thing the hybrid price premium has dropped in recent years, but the economic case for hybrids is still very weak.

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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
Lexus still sells the CT200h?
Europe and Japan I believe still have it. Essentially unchanged except for a nip/tuck here and there.



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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
I'd like to drive the best newest hybrids at some point to see how far they've improved in terms of seamlessness of the gas/electric transition. Ones i've driven in the past (about a 2011 RX450h, a Prius and Prius V - the big one) were pretty horrible to drive.

With gas so cheap, it's a good thing the hybrid price premium has dropped in recent years, but the economic case for hybrids is still very weak.
You are right about the Prius & Prius V driving experience. In some cases however the Hybrid version make more sense. Good example is the new Rav4. The hybrid model is quieter, faster and gets stellar fuel economy, drives very well & the price difference is not that much over the gas model.
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