New BMW 4 Series with the beaver GRILLE
03-11-21, 07:06 AM
#241
Lexus Test Driver
Completely disagree - 2JZ sounds great, S54 in E46 M3 sounds epic, the Flat 6 in GT3 etc. Plenty of great sounding 6cyl motors. Nissan, Jaguar etc had some amazing in-line 6 motors as well. V6s are harder to make sound pleasing just because of their setup.
The S55 and S58 engines are not great sounding but they do sound good. The issue is you don’t get much induction/engine noise in the cabin at all like on E46 or E9x M3. I recommend you take one out for a spin. Just not a tuned or modified one that has obnoxious exhaust.
The S55 and S58 engines are not great sounding but they do sound good. The issue is you don’t get much induction/engine noise in the cabin at all like on E46 or E9x M3. I recommend you take one out for a spin. Just not a tuned or modified one that has obnoxious exhaust.
03-11-21, 07:14 AM
#242
Lead Lap
Completely disagree - 2JZ sounds great, S54 in E46 M3 sounds epic, the Flat 6 in GT3 etc. Plenty of great sounding 6cyl motors. Nissan, Jaguar etc had some amazing in-line 6 motors as well. V6s are harder to make sound pleasing just because of their setup.
The S55 and S58 engines are not great sounding but they do sound good. The issue is you don’t get much induction/engine noise in the cabin at all like on E46 or E9x M3. I recommend you take one out for a spin. Just not a tuned or modified one that has obnoxious exhaust.
The S55 and S58 engines are not great sounding but they do sound good. The issue is you don’t get much induction/engine noise in the cabin at all like on E46 or E9x M3. I recommend you take one out for a spin. Just not a tuned or modified one that has obnoxious exhaust.
03-11-21, 10:46 AM
#243
Lexus Test Driver
Thread Starter
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I also have a B58 in my X3 and had NA 2JZ in my GS300.
The inline 6 engine noise is just so nice and smooth. It’s important to distinguish engine sound and exhaust sound also.
I suggest you unlock the exhaust flap to get better sound.
I also have a B58 in my X3 and had NA 2JZ in my GS300.
The inline 6 engine noise is just so nice and smooth. It’s important to distinguish engine sound and exhaust sound also.
I suggest you unlock the exhaust flap to get better sound.
03-11-21, 03:27 PM
#244
Lexus Champion
it depends on what kind of sound you like. Many vintage Ford V8s sounded spectacular because of their firing order. I enjoyed the sound of the 7M-GTE at full song. In general, when it comes to engine configurations, The inline 6, flat six, V8, V10 or V12 all usually sound great. Too bad they’re all going out of fashion.
03-12-21, 09:03 AM
#246
Advanced
I have a good news for all the peoples that are disturbed by the beaver grill type.
Lexus grills in the IS and RC are quite appealing to the eyes, even if some few find them over the top.
And Mercedes, Renault and Kia still have normal grills (for now).
... ah yes, and there are conversion kits around, that you can buy to make your BMW look normal.
Lexus grills in the IS and RC are quite appealing to the eyes, even if some few find them over the top.
And Mercedes, Renault and Kia still have normal grills (for now).
... ah yes, and there are conversion kits around, that you can buy to make your BMW look normal.
03-12-21, 09:31 AM
#247
Lexus Test Driver
Thread Starter
I have a good news for all the peoples that are disturbed by the beaver grill type.
Lexus grills in the IS and RC are quite appealing to the eyes, even if some few find them over the top.
And Mercedes, Renault and Kia still have normal grills (for now).
... ah yes, and there are conversion kits around, that you can buy to make your BMW look normal.
Lexus grills in the IS and RC are quite appealing to the eyes, even if some few find them over the top.
And Mercedes, Renault and Kia still have normal grills (for now).
... ah yes, and there are conversion kits around, that you can buy to make your BMW look normal.
MB and others don’t have competition for M3/4 with new C63 being hybrid 4cyl.
There are no conversion kits that i know of, just photoshop pics. iND just took delivery of their M4 so hopefully they can work their magic on a new front.
03-12-21, 02:54 PM
#248
The worst part of the beaver grille isn't so much the design as it is the awkward placement of the radar in some corner of the grille and how a license plate looks laughably absurd when mounted on it. I can't think of a single other grille that has such an awkward layout.
03-12-21, 05:57 PM
#249
Lexus Test Driver
the old n/a M3 models sounded fantastic (especially the E92 omg that was amazing with some exhaust work) but these turbo models just make the same indistinct boring fart and popping sounds
03-13-21, 08:05 AM
#251
Lexus Fanatic
Doug reviews M3 and M4's, he really likes the manual version. I still can't believe how expensive M3/M4's have got and people pay it, especially with that hideous grill and odd interior design.
03-13-21, 08:49 AM
#252
Lexus Test Driver
Originally Posted by UDel
Doug reviews M3 and M4's, he really likes the manual version. I still can't believe how expensive M3/M4's have got and people pay it, especially with that hideous grill and odd interior design.
03-13-21, 10:02 AM
#253
Lexus Test Driver
Thread Starter
Doug reviews M3 and M4's, he really likes the manual version. I still can't believe how expensive M3/M4's have got and people pay it, especially with that hideous grill and odd interior design.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hucRrlWhWaU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jsYzCtdR2E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hucRrlWhWaU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jsYzCtdR2E
The build for a new one with Comp Pack and Executive Pack is actually cheaper than what my 2018 M3 cost.
If you option the exterior Carbon Pack than it can get pricey.
Also i’m not fully sold on the performance improvement - it is a better car for daily duties as the torque converter auto is much more refined than the DCT was. Also it looks like it puts the power down much better than F8x.
Chris Harris has great review on it and one of the more unbiased ones. None of these YouTubers want to **** off BMW...
Last edited by RNM GS3; 03-13-21 at 10:07 AM.
03-13-21, 11:00 AM
#254
Lexus Fanatic
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