2021 Acura TLX
09-15-20, 02:09 PM
#226
Lexus Test Driver
09-15-20, 02:11 PM
#227
09-15-20, 02:13 PM
#228
Lexus Test Driver
Gosh, I love this moving of goalposts. First it's fully loaded at $50K, now it's "fully loaded at $55K" even though it's missing $10K worth of features before any extra packages lol. And somehow Acura doesn't even offer basic economy car options like automatic windshield wipers on a $55K car.... just lmao.
Sorry to burst your bubble, but every feature I listed is available on the TLX in the Advanced package. Not standard on the Type S that starts at $55K though.
Last edited by Motorola; 09-15-20 at 02:21 PM.
09-15-20, 02:18 PM
#229
Lexus Test Driver
We should have a board on the guesses for the price 
Who cares what it is...the fun is in the guess. In reality, the car will appeal to those that like its looks and put performance second. I think most people are like that and therefore choose BMW as it looks good, fast, and has the prestige. The few that like extreme performance opt for things like an M3 but the other factors usually outweigh outright performance. That is why true disruption is so rare in car segments...even if the Type S was faster than the M340, i doubt it would outsell it.
Who cares what it is...the fun is in the guess. In reality, the car will appeal to those that like its looks and put performance second. I think most people are like that and therefore choose BMW as it looks good, fast, and has the prestige. The few that like extreme performance opt for things like an M3 but the other factors usually outweigh outright performance. That is why true disruption is so rare in car segments...even if the Type S was faster than the M340, i doubt it would outsell it.
09-15-20, 02:23 PM
#230
Motorola,
Who in their right mind going to spend that much on an Acura sedan, Lexus could charge that and get away but not Acura lol, plus i thought you were a Genesis/Stinger fan. Those cars are superior at thousands less, Acura doesn't have the prestige of the Germans. The SH-AWD is all hype and is inferior to the systems the Germans offer.
Ps. did they not struggle to move the faux NSX, this will be even harder, expect 30% off lol. right now all Acura's are leasing for peanuts even the RDX, see Leasehackr.
Who in their right mind going to spend that much on an Acura sedan, Lexus could charge that and get away but not Acura lol, plus i thought you were a Genesis/Stinger fan. Those cars are superior at thousands less, Acura doesn't have the prestige of the Germans. The SH-AWD is all hype and is inferior to the systems the Germans offer.
Ps. did they not struggle to move the faux NSX, this will be even harder, expect 30% off lol. right now all Acura's are leasing for peanuts even the RDX, see Leasehackr.
Last edited by EXE46; 09-15-20 at 02:27 PM.
09-15-20, 02:28 PM
#231
And Acura has not shown any plan that they're adding substantial content in any sort of package (s) to the Type S other than some accessory type wheels. So in Acura's eyes, the "base price" for the Type S could very well be their "Fully Loaded" model.
09-15-20, 02:36 PM
#232
Lexus Test Driver
Sorry, but those features in no way add up to 8-10K more. 8-10K is the entire walk from Base TLX to Advance. A-Spec to Advance is $2,000
And Acura has not shown any plan that they're adding substantial content in any sort of package (s) to the Type S other than some accessory type wheels. So in Acura's eyes, the "base price" for the Type S could very well be their "Fully Loaded" model.
And Acura has not shown any plan that they're adding substantial content in any sort of package (s) to the Type S other than some accessory type wheels. So in Acura's eyes, the "base price" for the Type S could very well be their "Fully Loaded" model.
You are correct that Acura may not offer any of the Advance Package features on the Type S though. Still, just because the features are unavailable to be added doesn't mean that the Type S in its current form is "fully loaded".
Last edited by Motorola; 09-15-20 at 02:40 PM.
09-15-20, 02:37 PM
#233
We should have a board on the guesses for the price Who cares what it is...the fun is in the guess. In reality, the car will appeal to those that like its looks and put performance second. I think most people are like that and therefore choose BMW as it looks good, fast, and has the prestige. The few that like extreme performance opt for things like an M3 but the other factors usually outweigh outright performance. That is why true disruption is so rare in car segments...even if the Type S was faster than the M340, i doubt it would outsell it.
Who cares what it is...the fun is in the guess. In reality, the car will appeal to those that like its looks and put performance second. I think most people are like that and therefore choose BMW as it looks good, fast, and has the prestige. The few that like extreme performance opt for things like an M3 but the other factors usually outweigh outright performance. That is why true disruption is so rare in car segments...even if the Type S was faster than the M340, i doubt it would outsell it.Furthermore, some claim they could never utilize the M3's power as a street car since it was overkill. Many of these M3's never see the track so some of those owners who has got the M thing done has now default to the M340 therefore it's very presence is relevant. It's makes sense to have it along with the M3.
09-15-20, 02:43 PM
#234
Except that Advance Package can't be combined with the standard A-Spec TLX, so the actual price difference is not a mere $2000.
You are correct that Acura may not offer any of the Advance Package features on the Type S though. Still, just because the features are unavailable to be added doesn't mean that the Type S in its current form is "fully loaded".
You are correct that Acura may not offer any of the Advance Package features on the Type S though. Still, just because the features are unavailable to be added doesn't mean that the Type S in its current form is "fully loaded".
In fact the gap could potentially be less, since the Advance also adds adaptive dampers over the A-Spec, and the Type S already has this. Type S also has the 16 way seats, up from the A-Spec's 12 way.
So that would then indicate that adding in the "missing" advance content to the Type S would be less than the $2,000 walk that A-Spec to Advance is now.
And if something is not available to be added, it would by definition be fully loaded.
09-15-20, 02:52 PM
#235
Lexus Test Driver
Motorola,
Who in their right mind going to spend that much on an Acura sedan, Lexus could charge that and get away but not Acura lol, plus i thought you were a Genesis/Stinger fan. Those cars are superior at thousands less, Acura doesn't have the prestige of the Germans. The SH-AWD is all hype and is inferior to the systems the Germans offer.
Who in their right mind going to spend that much on an Acura sedan, Lexus could charge that and get away but not Acura lol, plus i thought you were a Genesis/Stinger fan. Those cars are superior at thousands less, Acura doesn't have the prestige of the Germans. The SH-AWD is all hype and is inferior to the systems the Germans offer.
I don't have any loyalty to any particular brand, and I'll gladly roast the Stinger for its rather low-grade interior that isn't worth anywhere near its asking price and surpassed by other recent Kias that cost half as much. However, I really like the direction that the Koreans are going in with their recent vehicles, especially as I see other brands struggling with their lineup.
09-15-20, 02:54 PM
#236
Lexus Test Driver
Why does it mean the actual price difference is not a mere $2,000?
In fact the gap could potentially be less, since the Advance also adds adaptive dampers over the A-Spec, and the Type S already has this. Type S also has the 16 way seats, up from the A-Spec's 12 way.
So that would then indicate that adding in the "missing" advance content to the Type S would be less than the $2,000 walk that A-Spec to Advance is now.
And if something is not available to be added, it would by definition be fully loaded.
In fact the gap could potentially be less, since the Advance also adds adaptive dampers over the A-Spec, and the Type S already has this. Type S also has the 16 way seats, up from the A-Spec's 12 way.
So that would then indicate that adding in the "missing" advance content to the Type S would be less than the $2,000 walk that A-Spec to Advance is now.
And if something is not available to be added, it would by definition be fully loaded.
09-15-20, 02:55 PM
#237
Lexus Test Driver
Acura is dead and has been for decades at least BMW, Audi and Mercedes still make serious driver's car. M340i is a great alternative to the M3 for less, M3 is still at least 10k more above the M340I. Many prior owners who switched over prefer it's comfort and has remarked that it's almost as fast or even faster except at high speeds.
Furthermore, some claim they could never utilize the M3's power as a street car since it was overkill. Many of these M3's never see the track so some of those owners who has got the M thing done has now default to the M340 therefore it's very presence is relevant. It's makes sense to have it along with the M3.
Furthermore, some claim they could never utilize the M3's power as a street car since it was overkill. Many of these M3's never see the track so some of those owners who has got the M thing done has now default to the M340 therefore it's very presence is relevant. It's makes sense to have it along with the M3.
09-15-20, 02:56 PM
#238
Lexus Fanatic
SH-awd is the best most advanced AWD system available, there is nothing faux or junk about it.
09-15-20, 02:59 PM
#240
Check these dimensions relative to the competition, they bench marked the ancient Audi S4 but manage to build a much larger car. This sure shouldn't be compared to what's referred to as " compact sports sedan" today. The M340i is already as big a car I am comfortable with, yet this is longer lol. This is more A6/5'er competition, maybe then the price point makes sense haha/
Length
Giulia: 182.5 in
G70: 184.4 in
C-Class: 184.5 in
3 Series: 185.7 in
CT4: 187.2 in
A4: 187.4 in
E-Class: 193.8 in
CT5: 193.8 in
A6: 194.4 in
5 Series: 194.6 in
TLX: 194.6 in
A7: 195.6 in
Length
Giulia: 182.5 in
G70: 184.4 in
C-Class: 184.5 in
3 Series: 185.7 in
CT4: 187.2 in
A4: 187.4 in
E-Class: 193.8 in
CT5: 193.8 in
A6: 194.4 in
5 Series: 194.6 in
TLX: 194.6 in
A7: 195.6 in