SH-AWD is the most advanced AWD you can get right now. If you want to talk about gimmped AWD let's talk about BMW xDrive

 

I agree.....I think Acura does "their" thing quite well. They seem to want to play it safe and play it small-time and what is wrong with that? I think the new TLX is going to get rave reviews by its intended audience and demographic

 

how you figure, what's great about it compared to Quattro, or BMW X drive. what's great about a FWD drive biased system?

Ps. Acura system was good 7 years ago, today competition offers superior and all are now torque vectoring too so Acura no longer has an edge with its FWD biased system.

 

The Advance package is less then 4K in the current TLX and other models, if they are saying 54-55K for a Type S even if they add the Advance Package from that it won't even be 60K. Acura does not offer a bunch of expensive extra features that drive the price up, they don't offer "unlisted packages", they offer Tech, A Spec, and Advance packages. The regular Type S wheels look very good, doubt any specialized Acura wheel will add that much to the cost.

 

SH awd is still the best most advanced AWD system for the majority of competitors, its torque vectoring and design is still superior compared to other makers. What is great about a RWD drive biased system?

We are not talking about FWD vs RWD, RWD in most cars is less compromised and offers better balance then FWD to start so a well balanced RWD car can have a okay AWD system and still preform well, a FWD car has to have a much better more advanced AWD to compete with RWD cars/RWD cars with AWD or perform well. Ideally the Acura would be RWD with a SH awd system but that is not how they make their cars and it would be likely 10K more expensive if it had its own RWD platform.

 

Because that's the Acura/Honda way. They believe that the Sporty Buyer and Luxury Buyer are two different people. It was the same when this generation GS came out as well, they didn't initially plan to have the rear luxury content on the F Sport.

Honda/Acura is one of the most restrictive when it comes to what build configurations they offer from the factory/manufacturing. They were likely told we'll make you 5 trims (not including drive train/engine) so optimize based on your top 5 groupings. And with those 5 you'll still cover 95% of potential sales volumes. Yes, you'll leave some money on the table, but you won't have dealers sitting on random builds that then need to find a specific buyers.

It took Honda a while to offer the Civic Hatchback with a 6 speed above the base Sport, now they finally with Sport Touring. Accord Sport offered 6 speed on both the 1.5T and the 2.0T, but not with Touring level equipment. Thought they would have learned from the Civic Type R, which in the U.S. built on the top Civic Touring trim, but they didn't.

I've been in countless meetings and discussions with OEMs, and even with Honda/Acura on this very topic of blended A-Spec and Advance contenting, and they still think they've got enough coverage to sell whatever they want to sell. Maybe they didn't want to stretch nearly $10K over the Advance TLX price tag to hit whatever volume they committed to for the Type S to come to life, and thus erred on lower content and lower price, and fitting back into the Acura thought mold of what "sporty" buyers want, aka non Lux content. Even though there is absolutely demand for a "fully loaded" type model.

I don't put it past them to offer "PMC" editions in the future that combine the contents of Advance and A-Spec as part of their lifecycle.

But what do I know, I've just worked on product develpment and manufacturing strategies for the past 15 years of my life.

 

I agree. That center stack is a hot mess!

 

I seriously hate the push button shifter thing. HATE it.

 

Yep, worst part of that center stack.

 

I seriously don't mind it!! Better than some BMW shifters I've seen.

 

Shifter doesn't bother me, we have the same one in our Honda, easy to use and nicely delineated functions that can be controlled without having to look down at it.

But it does seem like an odd item for design to hang their hat on with the "NSX inspired" drive mode selector, that the customer will pretty much rarely touch, and have it take up a huge chunk of prime real estate in the middle of the center stack like that. If not for that, the shifter could have been placed to a side, and then make better use of all space on the stack and center console.

 

Yea I passed on the huracan and vantage because the pushbutton transmission selector.

 

LOL!!!! Nice!!!!

Huracan.....

 

Comparing the clean looking interior of the Huracan to the sloppy looking TLX? Lol




It's all about placement and not looking like its crammed into the middle of the center stack.

The Huracan has better placement and overall better interior obviously. More than anything the layout of the TLX is an odd mishmash imo.

 

Your many posts stating how much you hate the tlx are well documented.