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The whole point of the TLX is to give Acura a sport image. Type S just expands on that. . With that image they can sell more cross overs. FWD based vehicles is what most people in North America want…
I have a hintch next S4 will be a four cyl hybrid. If not the best they can do is to cram that 2.9 twin turbo in it which I doubt. Both VAG 3.0T/2.9TT engines are being put into barnd new Porsche and Audi models and if previous six family is any indication they are on mid life cycle currently and still have another half a decade to go. Mercedes is the same position with its single turbo inline six as well. "Pedestrian" version of that MB egnine powers AMG GT43 and it has 10hp & 10lb-ft more than Type S.
When it comes to acceleration it's the transmission that makes all the difference with similar output engines. Just look at Inifiniti, they have that 3.0TT engine paired with ancient tranny and its going nowhere. Probably the similar thing is happening inside Type S.
I'm really disapointed they didn't go with RLX SH setup on Type-S with 2.0T instead of 3.5 V6. RLX SH was a blast to drive for a huge FWD boat, something next gen Lexus ES should look into.
I think those German's are sandbagging. Seems MB, Porsche, BMW, etc. put down a lot more power than they're rated for.
It gives the image of sport. Like the Hyundai N line. I don’t think the TLX is a sport car…but it’s a sporty Japanese four door
Why do you keep insisting on calling this a Japanese car when it's designed and manufactured in America, sold exclusively by an American-only brand? Is Jaguar an Indian car company even though they're designed and manufactured in England?
I do agree that the Type S is nothing more than an image product. The problem is that aside from some badges, it isn't particularly sporty.
Why do you keep insisting on calling this a Japanese car when it's designed and manufactured in America, sold exclusively by an American-only brand? Is Jaguar an Indian car company even though they're designed and manufactured in England?
I do agree that the Type S is nothing more than an image product. The problem is that aside from some badges, it isn't particularly sporty.
as long Honda owns Acura…I will always see Acura as a Japanese brand. I appreciate your opinion though.
Originally Posted by Motorola
I do agree that the Type S is nothing more than an image product. The problem is that aside from some badges, it isn't particularly sporty.
This is something I have to remind friends all the time. The TLX, the cars in the stable here, or any of these premium sedans nowadays can be fun to drive and very capable, but, I will say the somewhat old Boxster S I drove was still far more exciting and felt more agile than any of them by a mile. Even something like a Camaro will be far more nimble even with the V-8 up front. These are really one-car packages, the cars for people who demand equal measures usability, performance, and comfort. They can't be amazing in one area without compromising either price or one of those other areas.
Edit: ... which is partly why I am perfectly okay with my IS looking a lot faster than it actually is.
4.9 and 5.5 second runs to 60 are not even remotely close. 14.0 vs. 13.6 in the quarter is a bit closer, but still very different.
If I had to guess, EZZ is referring to the rare IS 350 AWD that can achieve sub-5.0-second 0-60 times. It is possible.
I think, seat-of-the-pants wise, what makes the difference isn't the time, it's when the torque comes on. My old GLI was technically no quicker than my IS 350 is, but in many situations it felt quicker. However, I do enjoy how the engine in the IS seems to get through the upper parts of the tachometer more quickly than the engine in that GLI would.
The TLX, on the other hand, has no upper reaches through which to travel, since it has only 6200 RPM to use.
The 2IS was noticeably faster than the 3IS due to weight and gearing. R&T tested a RWD IS350 at 4.9s to 60 and 13.5s in the quarter mile. Same as the current TLX Type S. I just mentioned the Lexus because it had the same Performance times.
Why do you keep insisting on calling this a Japanese car when it's designed and manufactured in America, sold exclusively by an American-only brand? Is Jaguar an Indian car company even though they're designed and manufactured in England?
I do agree that the Type S is nothing more than an image product. The problem is that aside from some badges, it isn't particularly sporty.
Honda/Acura are certainly Japanese car brands, their cars are considered Japanese cars no matter where they are made or sold, BMW, Toyota, Nissan, etc all have many cars designed and manufactured for and in other markets.
Pretty much every review/reviewer says the opposite of what you wrote. Have you even driven one?
07-11-21 | 03:34 PM
