2021 Acura TLX
07-30-20, 01:31 PM
#76
Per Car and Driver, they expect the Type S to start at $45,000. Well under the German trio, as it should. And well below the $60K that some on the forum were throwing around.
https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a3...-s-horsepower/
Pricing is expected to start around $35,000 for the standard TLX and around $45,000 for the Type S.
07-31-20, 08:06 AM
#77
A prototype will serve as the pace car for the 2020 Pikes Peak Hill Climb
The 2021 Acura TLX Type-S is on track to deliver 355 horsepower, Honda's luxury subsidiary said Thursday, floating the power figure in an announcement that a prototype of its new sport sedan will serve as the pace car for the 2020 Pikes Peak International Hill Climb on August 30.
The 3.0-liter V6 will also boast 354 pound-feet of torque, Acura said. These figures put it in the heart of the midsize performance sedan category, alongside the likes of the Cadillac CT5-V (360 horsepower) and Audi S4 (349 horsepower); BMW, Mercedes-Benz and Infiniti all offer more. The 2021 TLX sits on a new, stiffer platform and marks the return of a double-wishbone front suspension.
"Racing is a key expression of Acura’s Precision Crafted Performance DNA. For the past nine years, Acura has utilized the grueling Pikes Peak hill climb as an opportunity to grow the skills of the company’s young engineers and as a test bed for future performance technologies in Acura production vehicles. The Acura Pikes Peak race team is comprised of a group of volunteer R&D engineers and is responsible for all aspects of the competition, including the development of vehicles, race prep, crew support and navigating race cars to the finish line," Acura's announcement said.
Acura will field two TLX race cars in the Exhibition class at Pikes Peak. Both will be powered by the base, 2.0-liter turbocharged four-cylinder. Based on the company's announcement, it appears that one will be front-wheel drive and the other equipped with Acura's Super Handling All-Wheel Drive (SH-AWD), which is standard on the Type S. This engine makes 272 hp in street tune, but the race cars have received upgrades. The SH-AWD model boasts a larger turbocharger and intercooler for additional power, while the front-wheel-drive model received a milder tune and some suspension tweaks.
A Time Attack NSX piloted by James Robinson will accompany the sedans. The Type-S will serve only as a pace vehicle, not a competitive entry.
The 3.0-liter V6 will also boast 354 pound-feet of torque, Acura said. These figures put it in the heart of the midsize performance sedan category, alongside the likes of the Cadillac CT5-V (360 horsepower) and Audi S4 (349 horsepower); BMW, Mercedes-Benz and Infiniti all offer more. The 2021 TLX sits on a new, stiffer platform and marks the return of a double-wishbone front suspension.
"Racing is a key expression of Acura’s Precision Crafted Performance DNA. For the past nine years, Acura has utilized the grueling Pikes Peak hill climb as an opportunity to grow the skills of the company’s young engineers and as a test bed for future performance technologies in Acura production vehicles. The Acura Pikes Peak race team is comprised of a group of volunteer R&D engineers and is responsible for all aspects of the competition, including the development of vehicles, race prep, crew support and navigating race cars to the finish line," Acura's announcement said.
Acura will field two TLX race cars in the Exhibition class at Pikes Peak. Both will be powered by the base, 2.0-liter turbocharged four-cylinder. Based on the company's announcement, it appears that one will be front-wheel drive and the other equipped with Acura's Super Handling All-Wheel Drive (SH-AWD), which is standard on the Type S. This engine makes 272 hp in street tune, but the race cars have received upgrades. The SH-AWD model boasts a larger turbocharger and intercooler for additional power, while the front-wheel-drive model received a milder tune and some suspension tweaks.
A Time Attack NSX piloted by James Robinson will accompany the sedans. The Type-S will serve only as a pace vehicle, not a competitive entry.
08-20-20, 09:32 AM
#78
Lexus Test Driver
More expensive than I thought. I think it will be hard for them to compete...
The standard TLX starts at $38,525 and the upcoming Type S will be priced above $50,000.
Acura's swanky new TLX hits dealerships in late September, boasting more power, more tech and a whole lot more style than its predecessor. Because of that, the 2021 TLX is also going to cost you more money: $38,525 including $1,025 for destination, Acura confirmed Thursday.Yes, that's a $4,500 increase over the base price of a 2020 TLX, but it's not an apples-to-apples comparison. The new TLX has a much more powerful base engine -- a 2.0-liter turbo I4 with 272 horsepower and 280 pound-feet of torque -- which is actually closer to the old TLX's optional V6. In that case, the new TLX is priced $1,300 higher than a 2020 V6 model, which doesn't seem like that bad of a hike considering how much prettier and better-equipped this midsize sedan is overall.
Next spring, Acura will launch the 355-horsepower TLX Type S. Pricing for this hotter variant isn't available just yet. For now, Acura says the Type S will start in the "low to mid $50,000s."
The TLX is the second part of Acura's strategy to move more upmarket, following the launch of the third-gen RDX crossover, which went on sale in summer 2018. Acura says the new RDX's average transaction price is a little more than $3,000 higher than the old version, and with the TLX's big upgrade in design and technology, the company believes it can make a similar step up.
Yet at the same time, the TLX is still priced below its main competitors, namely the Audi A4, BMW 3 Series and Mercedes-Benz C-Class. (See how they all stack up in our spec comparison.) The TLX is also slightly larger than those German rivals, but offers similar levels of luxury and more standard equipment. To wit: While most driver-assistance technologies are optional on the Germans, every TLX comes standard with the AcuraWatch suite, which includes adaptive cruise control, blind-spot monitoring, traffic sign recognition and the company's Traffic Jam Assist, which makes highway commutes a breeze.
The TLX certainly looks great and seems solid on paper, and we recently had the chance to check out its ELS premium audio system. All that's left to do is drive the TLX, which we'll be able to do ahead of its on-sale date late next month. Stay tuned.
https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/2...cing-official/
2021 Acura TLX is more expensive than before but still undercuts competitors
The standard TLX starts at $38,525 and the upcoming Type S will be priced above $50,000.Acura's swanky new TLX hits dealerships in late September, boasting more power, more tech and a whole lot more style than its predecessor. Because of that, the 2021 TLX is also going to cost you more money: $38,525 including $1,025 for destination, Acura confirmed Thursday.Yes, that's a $4,500 increase over the base price of a 2020 TLX, but it's not an apples-to-apples comparison. The new TLX has a much more powerful base engine -- a 2.0-liter turbo I4 with 272 horsepower and 280 pound-feet of torque -- which is actually closer to the old TLX's optional V6. In that case, the new TLX is priced $1,300 higher than a 2020 V6 model, which doesn't seem like that bad of a hike considering how much prettier and better-equipped this midsize sedan is overall.
ACURATLX PRICING: 2020 VS. 2021
The TLX 2.0T will be offered in base, Technology, A-Spec and Advance trim levels, all of which are available with the company's Super-Handling All-Wheel Drive for an additional $2,000. In its most expensive form, the 2021 TLX 2.0T Advance SH-AWD costs $49,325 including destination.Next spring, Acura will launch the 355-horsepower TLX Type S. Pricing for this hotter variant isn't available just yet. For now, Acura says the Type S will start in the "low to mid $50,000s."
The TLX is the second part of Acura's strategy to move more upmarket, following the launch of the third-gen RDX crossover, which went on sale in summer 2018. Acura says the new RDX's average transaction price is a little more than $3,000 higher than the old version, and with the TLX's big upgrade in design and technology, the company believes it can make a similar step up.
Yet at the same time, the TLX is still priced below its main competitors, namely the Audi A4, BMW 3 Series and Mercedes-Benz C-Class. (See how they all stack up in our spec comparison.) The TLX is also slightly larger than those German rivals, but offers similar levels of luxury and more standard equipment. To wit: While most driver-assistance technologies are optional on the Germans, every TLX comes standard with the AcuraWatch suite, which includes adaptive cruise control, blind-spot monitoring, traffic sign recognition and the company's Traffic Jam Assist, which makes highway commutes a breeze.
2021ACURA TLX VS. COMPETITORS
Indeed, the TLX is better poised than ever to take on these rivals, but it's all about getting people into an Acura showroom in the first place. That's where the car's strong design really comes into play -- "that seven-second knockout," as Acura VP Jon Ikdea put it during an interview. "A car that's really designed well kind of sells itself."The TLX certainly looks great and seems solid on paper, and we recently had the chance to check out its ELS premium audio system. All that's left to do is drive the TLX, which we'll be able to do ahead of its on-sale date late next month. Stay tuned.
08-20-20, 09:44 AM
#79
Was really hoping they could peg the Type S at $50K given teh starting price of the Audi S4. Granted, I'm sure the TLX Type S will have more standard equipment than the Base S4, but still the optics are tough to overcome for many shoppers.
08-20-20, 09:54 AM
#80
Lexus Test Driver
Ah yes, and here people were claiming there was no way the Type S would reach the $60K line (which it most certainly will with a couple options) and would be somehow priced to match the G70 3.3T. Did anyone seriously think an established brand like Acura would price themselves at or below Genesis?
08-20-20, 10:58 AM
#81
Ah yes, and here people were claiming there was no way the Type S would reach the $60K line (which it most certainly will with a couple options) and would be somehow priced to match the G70 3.3T. Did anyone seriously think an established brand like Acura would price themselves at or below Genesis?
Initial reaction from the industry thinks the TLX pricing is a bit high, especially given the intense incentives that theyu have on the outgoing model. Even recovering back to current MSRP with lower incentive support would have been a strong achievement. Guess they really believe in the TLX and increased demand. And/or have much lower volume expectations than prior generations.
08-20-20, 11:05 AM
#82
Lexus Test Driver
You were the one who pegged the Type S to hit $70K. No way Type S will hit that. Wouldn't be surprised to have Type S be mono-spec, so no additional options kind of like their end of run PMC editiosn are. So likely not hitting $60 still and definitely not $70K. If Type S is fully specced out at low to mid $50's that's almost exactly where a G70 3.3T AWD Sport lands, at $53,275.
Initial reaction from the industry thinks the TLX pricing is a bit high, especially given the intense incentives that theyu have on the outgoing model. Even recovering back to current MSRP with lower incentive support would have been a strong achievement. Guess they really believe in the TLX and increased demand. And/or have much lower volume expectations than prior generations.
Initial reaction from the industry thinks the TLX pricing is a bit high, especially given the intense incentives that theyu have on the outgoing model. Even recovering back to current MSRP with lower incentive support would have been a strong achievement. Guess they really believe in the TLX and increased demand. And/or have much lower volume expectations than prior generations.
08-20-20, 11:11 AM
#83
Yes agree completely. Lexus could have put a V6 AWD in the ES F-Sport to help provide some coverage of people abandoned by the GS, but we got the 2.5L 4-cylinder instead. Lexus seems to want no part of the performance spectrum, other than some mesh grilles.
08-20-20, 12:14 PM
#84
It will be a mid $50k car for the most part. It shouldn't encroach on the M340 prices as the new car will most likely be average speed for the segment (~4.3s to 60 probably). It should be targeted as a value based buy but probably won't be best in class in anything (maybe handling with SH-AWD?). At least Acura is coming out with something that can play in this segment. Lexus seems to have abandoned this and play only in the lower tiers. I could see this getting a lot of aftermarket support typical of most Honda products.
That would make it around 65k in Canada. I wouldn't touch this car for 50k, let alone 60-65k. Lol
08-20-20, 12:17 PM
#85
Lexus Test Driver
Nope, according to the press release the Type S is missing a mountain of features that are on the highest-spec 2.0 trim. No remote start, power folding mirrors, surround view camera, rain-sensing wipers or windshield de-icer, heated rear seats, heated steering wheel, or HUD. And I wouldn't put it past Acura to include some more optional packages for the Type S like a track or dynamic package, carbon fiber interior/exterior trim, fancier wheels, more exclusive colors, etc.
My original estimate of nearing $70K was based on a fully loaded Cadillac CT5 V-Series, which is the most similar car to the new Type S in its size and aspirations. And the V-Series starts at $52K. Acura is pegging their starting price right there as well. Will it reach $70K like the Cadi? I'm not sure, but I wouldn't bet against it. However, reaching $60K is very much a guarantee.
My original estimate of nearing $70K was based on a fully loaded Cadillac CT5 V-Series, which is the most similar car to the new Type S in its size and aspirations. And the V-Series starts at $52K. Acura is pegging their starting price right there as well. Will it reach $70K like the Cadi? I'm not sure, but I wouldn't bet against it. However, reaching $60K is very much a guarantee.
08-20-20, 01:26 PM
#86
Nope, according to the press release the Type S is missing a mountain of features that are on the highest-spec 2.0 trim. No remote start, power folding mirrors, surround view camera, rain-sensing wipers or windshield de-icer, heated rear seats, heated steering wheel, or HUD. And I wouldn't put it past Acura to include some more optional packages for the Type S like a track or dynamic package, carbon fiber interior/exterior trim, fancier wheels, more exclusive colors, etc.
My original estimate of nearing $70K was based on a fully loaded Cadillac CT5 V-Series, which is the most similar car to the new Type S in its size and aspirations. And the V-Series starts at $52K. Acura is pegging their starting price right there as well. Will it reach $70K like the Cadi? I'm not sure, but I wouldn't bet against it. However, reaching $60K is very much a guarantee.
My original estimate of nearing $70K was based on a fully loaded Cadillac CT5 V-Series, which is the most similar car to the new Type S in its size and aspirations. And the V-Series starts at $52K. Acura is pegging their starting price right there as well. Will it reach $70K like the Cadi? I'm not sure, but I wouldn't bet against it. However, reaching $60K is very much a guarantee.
Last edited by pbm317; 08-20-20 at 01:30 PM.
08-20-20, 04:44 PM
#88
But it's not like this is going to command MSRP. Plenty of competition around that equal or better the performance and/or luxury, and even the value. Avg discounts in the industry top 10% of MSRP.
08-20-20, 05:02 PM
#89
Lexus Champion
I don’t see the big deal with this being over $50k. It’s basically the same price as an ES.
08-20-20, 07:24 PM
#90
Lead Lap
Its gonna sell well to those who test drive one, and for the majority of the other sales it`ll move with those dealer discounts the current demographic is accustomed to.