2021 LS500 arrives with new looks, self driving tech
11-08-20 | 12:36 PM
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I want to see! I love off the wall projects like this. Haha.
11-09-20 | 02:26 PM
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Because they have a ceo that is hellbent on making everything sporty and Lexus not boring. I dont believe it is Japanese corporate culture to go against the boss. All these products seem like stopgap products, but then you wonder how big the gap really is.
11-09-20 | 04:31 PM
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meh
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11-09-20 | 04:41 PM
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.....which, all else equal, should also help the ride quality.
11-09-20 | 04:54 PM
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Oh well, plenty of other manufacturers out there. At least Hyundai/ Genesis are making and effort. I am not sure what happened the the Lexus brand, but they lost their way. 👎
11-09-20 | 05:20 PM
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11-09-20 | 05:30 PM
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I don’t know why but this made me laugh.
11-09-20 | 05:49 PM
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11-09-20 | 05:58 PM
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Unlike previous four generations of LS's, the 5LS is no longer outselling the S Class and 7 Series; the LS is no longer sales leader of the full size luxury sedan class.
The market's opinion is more important than our own personal opinion, as far as Toyota Motor Corp is concerned.
11-09-20 | 06:00 PM
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When did the LS outsell the S class? And I don’t ever believe the LS was ever the leader in the segement...not in tech...not in engines..not in performance...not in options...Germans almost always out performed the Lexus LS. Lexus LS always had good reliability, refinement as well as value...but a lack of a V12 tells you it was never a true German competitor
The LS sales are low in America because 1. the car was made for world markets first 2. sedans are no longer as popular with the rich folks in the US an 3. The Tesla S has become the replacement at the price point. Plus the LS really went a different direction
Couple other notes: most sedans are getting smaller. No bigger. Reliability is bad according to CR but G90, S, 7 and A8 are all bad too. 15-17 LS is not good either. Remote touch is really bad.
The LS sales are low in America because 1. the car was made for world markets first 2. sedans are no longer as popular with the rich folks in the US an 3. The Tesla S has become the replacement at the price point. Plus the LS really went a different direction
Couple other notes: most sedans are getting smaller. No bigger. Reliability is bad according to CR but G90, S, 7 and A8 are all bad too. 15-17 LS is not good either. Remote touch is really bad.
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11-09-20 | 06:47 PM
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LS500 styling starting to grow on me. My friend has a white one in his family with the nice wheels....when he rolls up in it I sort of gawk. It definitely has presence, wayyy more than the S-Class that just came out. I’d have to see it in person but it looks downright boring next to an LS500.
Now, if only we can get rid of the not so smooth engine with turbo lag (though there is zero NVH that makes it through) and back to a good old V8 the 500 would be pretty desirable I would imagine.
Now, if only we can get rid of the not so smooth engine with turbo lag (though there is zero NVH that makes it through) and back to a good old V8 the 500 would be pretty desirable I would imagine.