I dumped the Pacifica... for another Pacifica...
07-11-20 | 09:16 PM
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She wouldn’t care if I replaced my car without telling her, but she would her car.
just drove an Odyssey Elite, drives nice. Not as snazzy as the Pacifica but functional.
Was surprised by the poor fit and finish. Lots of cars have trim that doesn’t line up and is loose, popped up rain channels, etc. The carpeting in the second row is just basically split and open without the mats down. Pacifica is much better in that regard.
just drove an Odyssey Elite, drives nice. Not as snazzy as the Pacifica but functional.
Was surprised by the poor fit and finish. Lots of cars have trim that doesn’t line up and is loose, popped up rain channels, etc. The carpeting in the second row is just basically split and open without the mats down. Pacifica is much better in that regard.
So I went to a second dealer and they gave me an Odyssey for the afternoon. Brought it home, wife got to drive it, kids got to ride in it (they love it, but they're 5). It drives nicer than the Pacifica IMHO, the drivetrain is more refined, the 10 speed auto is much better than the 9 speed. Pacifica has 30k mile Falken tires on it though, that may be a part of that. Noisewise, Pacifica is 63 db at 75 MPH, Odyssey is 64. The Pacifica definitely has better fit and finish, the paint finish is much better, Honda's paint on the Odyssey is kind of cheap and flat. Inside Pacifica has better materials. Pacifica has 2 screen rear entertainment vs one screen, panoramic roof vs regular sunroof on the Odyssey. The doors and all feel very light and cheap compared to the Pacifica. None of that bothers me or my wife really though given its a minivan.
Techwise is the issue for her, she really misses the surround view camera and the automatic parallel parking. She tried to parallel park it and it was a mess she's so accustomed to that. Now, she parallel parked vehicles for many years without automatic parking assist, so she would adapt. To me those things are a small tradeoff for having a vehicle that isn't constantly in the shop. For her, since that happens in the background and she just walks downstairs and all her stuff is in my car for her to use while the Pacifica is in the shop and I deal with it and rent a car and drive the ****ty enterprise rental car for a week while she drives my nice Lexus its not that big a deal to her. Frustrating.
Techwise is the issue for her, she really misses the surround view camera and the automatic parallel parking. She tried to parallel park it and it was a mess she's so accustomed to that. Now, she parallel parked vehicles for many years without automatic parking assist, so she would adapt. To me those things are a small tradeoff for having a vehicle that isn't constantly in the shop. For her, since that happens in the background and she just walks downstairs and all her stuff is in my car for her to use while the Pacifica is in the shop and I deal with it and rent a car and drive the ****ty enterprise rental car for a week while she drives my nice Lexus its not that big a deal to her. Frustrating.
07-12-20 | 04:55 AM
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Agreed. I tried to make myself like the LX 570, but way too small inside. With the 3rd row seating that just folds up, it is small. Certainly can’t compare to a minivan for space. The LX is built very well and can last a long time, but I don’t think this is a consideration as they seem to lease all their cars and dump them after three years or so.
07-12-20 | 06:04 AM
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07-12-20 | 09:13 AM
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The refresh Odyssey DOES add enhanced adaptive cruise control with stop capability and what looks to be better front parking sensors (currently only at the front corners). The 2nd row seats will also be able to fold down flat against the seat cushion, currently they only go to about a 45 degree angle. They'll also add passenger lumbar support.
Too small.
07-12-20 | 09:42 AM
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Have you ruled out waiting a few months for the all-new 2021 Sedona coming up? Or does the Pacifica have to be turned back in (end of lease-contract) before then?
I should have asked the Kia shop about that release-date a couple of days ago when I was looking at the new Seltos, but it slipped my mind....I was busy with the Seltos.
I should have asked the Kia shop about that release-date a couple of days ago when I was looking at the new Seltos, but it slipped my mind....I was busy with the Seltos.
07-12-20 | 10:19 AM
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^^^ It's worth having a look, if you haven't already. They are pretty nice, good sized, and seem to be pretty reliable based on what I've been reading. I talked to a couple different indy Euro shops/mechanics (one who is exclusively MB) and hear good things about their reliability.
07-12-20 | 10:26 AM
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^^^ It's worth having a look, if you haven't already. They are pretty nice, good sized, and seem to be pretty reliable based on what I've been reading. I talked to a couple different indy Euro shops/mechanics (one who is exclusively MB) and hear good things about their reliability.