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Old 07-13-20, 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
Great. We ARE going to get a two-door Bronco....though Ford doesn't expect to sell many in the U.S. I think they will sell more two-doors than they are figuring on. The last two-door Bronco basically became a cult-vehicle.
What, 40 years ago? Ford says 5% 2 door.
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
What, 40 years ago?
Better get yourself a new calculator. The last American-market Broncos were sold in 1996.....24 years ago.


Ford says 5% 2 door.
Better than nothing. At least they are there for those who want them. I personally think the demand for the 2-door will be somewhat higher than that, but we'll see. I've been wrong before.

That interior alone certainly looks 20k less
We're talking about the Defender here, not the ultra-plush Range-Rover. Not even the most remote comparison. The Defender's interior looks like exactly what it was designed or.......Third-World-conditions.

they should have named it the ford crackerjack.
I think you will see that the Bronco name, in this case, will suit it just fine.....a whole lot better than, well (a certain vehicle with a similar name you don't like me using)

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Originally Posted by mmarshall
Better get yourself a new calculator. The last American-market Broncos were sold in 1996.....24 years ago.




Better than nothing. At least they are there for those who want them. I personally think the demand for the 2-door will be somewhat higher than that, but we'll see. I've been wrong before.



We're talking about the Defender here, not the ultra-plush Range-Rover. Not even the most remote comparison. The Defender's interior looks like exactly what it was designed or.......Third-World-conditions.



I think you will see that the Bronco name, in this case, will suit it just fine.....a whole lot better than, well (a certain vehicle with a similar name you don't like me using)
Mustang? I wanna know.
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
That interior alone certainly looks 20k less

they should have named it the ford crackerjack.
It's not supposed to be a Lexus. It's a rugged and simple interior for an offroader. Not every SUV needs to be a plush luxury crossover.
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It's not supposed to be a Lexus. It's a rugged and simple interior for an offroader. Not every SUV needs to be a plush luxury crossover.
agree with that, but for it to be considered a defender interior for 20k less is ludicrous. the defender interior may be 'utilitarian' (not slathered in leather, wood and alcantera) but it's hardly cheap. i think it looks incredible. this bronco? looks dirt cheap, but that's what ford does these days since they're almost bankrupt.

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Originally Posted by venom21
I think its an absolute home run, everything the defender is for 20K less.
Everything except lower towing rating, lower water wading and less powerful engines. Why stop there? The Bronco is ~$100k less than the G Wagon.

I do like the Bronco on 1st blush better than the Wrangler, it’s main competitor.
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
agree with that, but for it to be considered a defender interior for 20k less is ludicrous. the defender interior may be 'utilitarian' (not slathered in leather, wood and alcantera) but it's hardly cheap.

The Defender's interior is not necessarily cheap in the sense of having cheap materials in it, but my point was that it was not designed to be plush or plush-looking. The designers knew it would regular be getting full of mud, snow, salt, etc..... and would need easy-cleaning.

As to just how exactly the Bronco's interior compares (or doesn't compare) to the Defender, although we now have some images, I'm going to withhold any more comments until I actually sit in it and examine it.
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Default These are the 2021 Ford Bronco and Bronco Sport paint colors

  • Antimatter Blue
  • Area 51
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  • Carbonized Gray
  • Cyber Orange
  • Iconic Silver
  • Oxford White
  • Race Red
  • Rapid Red
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^^^^^^ seems like the Bronco Sport is only getting automatics, but the larger Bronco is getting a 7-speed manual option. (Oops...I see you posted that just as I did, Hoovey)

I don't have any firm data on it (mostly hearsay), so I can't post it as a fact, but there is already (apparently) a 6-8-month backlog on orders for both Bronco and Bronco Sport.

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The Bronco is designed pretty well. Retro futuristic. Those 35s are a pretty big sell, coupled with the Tesla style $100 pre-order (at this time folks are itching to do that I assume).
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Default 2021 Ford Bronco trim breakdown

From Base to Badlands, here's what you should know about the different Bronco trims


Base



The party starts right here at $29,995. It’s the most basic Bronco you can buy, which means it’s also a great trim level if you intend on highly customizing. It comes with the 2.3-liter turbocharged four-cylinder and manual transmission (six-speed plus a crawler gear). You get four-wheel drive, 16-inch steel wheels, LED headlights, cloth seats, carpeted flooring and the eight-inch touchscreen.

Ford will let you tack on some rather desirable options to the Base Bronco, though. The 2.7-liter twin-turbo V6 can be had, and the 10-speed automatic transmission and more advanced four-wheel-drive system come along with it — you can also tack on an automatic transmission with the four-cylinder.

Additionally, Ford will let you spec its Sasquatch package on even the lowest trim. Think of it as a Rubicon-lite off-road package. You get 17-inch beadlock-capable wheels wrapped in 35-inch mud-terrain tires, electronic-locking front and rear axles, 4.7:1 final drive ratio, Bilstein shocks, high-clearance suspension and high-clearance fender flares.

If you want the four-door, add $4,700 to the base price of the two-door — that brings the Base four-door to $34,695.

Big Bend



Named after the national park in Texas, this one is meant to be slightly more upscale than the Base Bronco, while still keeping the off-road focus. The powertrain story is the same as the Base Bronco, but Ford adds 17-inch gray-painted aluminum wheels wrapped in 32-inch all-terrain tires, LED fog lamps, “carbonized” gray grille, a leather-wrapped steering wheel and shift **** and privacy glass. It also adds a sixth mode to Ford’s GOAT mode switcher, up from five in the Base Bronco. (The mode switcher borrows the Go Over Any Terrain mantra.)

Heated front seats become optional if you select the automatic transmission, and the Sasquatch package (explained above) is also available. Lastly, opting for the Big Bend unlocks the ability to option the “Mid Package.” This adds keyless entry, remote start, a 110-volt power outlet, dual-zone automatic climate control, heated front seats, an auto-dimming rearview mirror, rear parking sensors, an enhanced Sync infotainment system, and Ford’s Co-Pilot 360 suite of driver assistance systems.
  • Two-door: $34,880
  • Four-door: $37,375


Black Diamond



This one takes the added amenities of Big Bend and adds even more off-roading equipment and materials for additional functionality. Once again, the four-cylinder and manual are standard. The new headliners include heavy duty steel bumpers, rock rails, bash plates, 17-inch black-painted steel wheels wrapped in 32-inch all-terrain tires, vinyl-trimmed seats, a rubberized washable floor and auxiliary switches in the overhead console. Finally, it adds a seventh mode to the GOAT mode switcher.

All the optional equipment is identical to the Big Bend trim, which means the V6, Sasquatch Package and Mid Package can all be tacked on.
  • Two-door: $37,545
  • Four-door: $40,040


Outer Banks


The Outer Banks trim has different styling than the first three trims we’ve gone over. It includes all of the Big Bend equipment, but adds body-colored door handles, mirrors and fender flares. The “Mid Package” comes as standard, in addition to black-painted 18-inch aluminum wheels shod in 32-inch all-terrain tires, “Signature” LED headlights and taillights, powder-coated tube steps and cloth front seats (heated). Since it’s slanted more toward style, the Outer Banks trim scales things back to just six of the GOAT modes.

The optional packages really begin to add up in this trim, though. In addition to the Sasquatch Package, you can also add the High Package, Lux Package and leather seats. Ford’s High Package includes the 12-inch touchscreen display, 360-degree camera, more sound deadening, forward parking sensors and side view mirror approach lighting. If you go with the highest-possible Lux Package, that adds a 10-speaker B&O audio system, heated steering wheel, wireless charging pad, universal garage door opener, two additional USB ports, adaptive cruise control with Evasive Steering Assist and navigation. With these packages added on, this Bronco is comparable to the more luxury-oriented Wranglers.
  • Two-door: $40,450
  • Four-door: $42,945

Wildtrak


Next up is Wildtrak, which Ford calls the “all-out desert runner” version of the Bronco. This includes all of the standard equipment from the Outer Banks trim, but makes the 2.7-liter twin-turbo V6 and 10-speed automatic standard. That means it also gets the more advanced four-wheel-drive system as standard equipment, too. Since this one’s the “desert-runner,” Ford adds the seventh GOAT mode back in and makes it a Baja mode. Ford also makes the Mid Package and Sasquatch package standard on the Wildtrak.

It looks slightly different from other Bronco trims in that it has a black-painted hard top roof and Wildtrak hood graphic. Just like the Outer Banks trim, you’re able to option leather seats, and both the High Package and Lux Package.
  • Two-door: $50,370
  • Four-door: $52,865

Badlands


Here’s your Rubicon equivalent. The Bronco Badlands, named after Badlands National Park, is meant to be the most capable of any Bronco trim available. It comes with a unique heavy-duty suspension setup with a front stabilizer bar disconnect. It’s based on the Big Bend trim when it comes to the rest of its makeup, so the four-cylinder and manual transmission come standard. There’s a long list of extras, though. Ford adds 17-inch gray-painted aluminum wheels, 33-inch all-terrain tires, the steel bumpers, vinyl-trimmed seats, washout rubberized flooring and auxiliary switches. That GOAT mode switcher is also at its full capacity of seven different modes.

A number of different packages are available, including the Sasquatch Package, Mid Package, High Package and Lux Package. Leather seats can also be added separately from these packages. The one omission here is the V6 engine option.
  • Two-door: $43,590
  • Four-door: $46,085

First Edition


All 3500 First Editions have been reserved*

If you’re planning on being one of the first Bronco owners, the First Edition might be your cup of tea. Only 3,500 will be built, Ford says, and it’s limited to the first model year. Essentially, it’s all of the possible off-road performance and all of the possible luxury combined into one model that also features a special styling package.

You get the Badlands mechanicals (heavy duty suspension), Outer Banks interior and Wildtrak exterior. There are no optional packages, because everything comes standard. This lineup includes the Mid, High and Lux packages and Sasquatch Package. It also adds a First Edition hood, body side graphics, Shadow Black-painted hardtop, Safari bar, carpeted floor, leather seats (power driver seat) and a unique interior spec. There isn't an option box left unchecked.
  • Two-door: $60,800
  • Four-door: $64,995

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Making its debut alongside its truck-based bigger brother the Bronco, the 2021 Ford Bronco Sport is here to capture buyers who like the Bronco look and feel, but want something a little smaller and easier to manage around town. With that comes a price that slots in below the big model at $28,155 ($26,660 MSRP and $1,495 destination fee). That is quite close to the $29,995 two-door Bronco, though a significant discount compared to the four-door Bronco that starts at $34,695.

The Bronco Sport is in kind of an odd space as far as price and size are concerned. It's a bit smaller than the Ford Escape, but its base price puts it above many subcompact crossovers. One of its closest competitors based on price and off-road orientation would likely be the Jeep Cherokee. It starts at $27,335, but at that price you only get front-wheel drive while the Bronco Sport has all-wheel drive as standard. Power for those base models is similar, with the Cherokee just a bit behind with 180 horsepower and 171 pound-feet of torque to the Ford's 181 horsepower and 190 pound-feet. (Check back for a specs comparison of the Bronco Sport, Cherokee and Compass.)

In addition to the base Bronco Sport trim, there are four others. At the top is the Bronco Sport First Edition at $39,995. The entire lineup's pricing is listed below.
  • Base: $28,155
  • Big Bend: $29,655
  • Outer Banks: $33,655
  • Badlands: $34,155
  • First Edition: $39,995
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2021 Ford Bronco pricing starts at $30,000

It's right on par with the Jeep Wrangler



In addition to being fully revealed, Ford is taking reservations for the 2021 Ford Bronco in all trim levels. It's a fully refundable deposit, but you're still going to want to know what you'll have to pay when the SUV is available, if nothing else to figure out how much Bronco you can afford. (The reservation web page appears to be overwhelmed as of Monday evening.)

At the bare minimum, you'll need $29,995 ($28,500 MSRP and $1,495 destination) for the base, two-door Bronco with the seven-speed manual transmission. Worth noting is that is just barely more expensive than a 2020 Jeep Wrangler Sport two-door, which comes in at $29,790. If you want the four-door version of the base Bronco, you'll be spending an extra $4,700 for a total of $34,695. The price gap between this Bronco and the Wrangler Unlimited is a bit larger, with the Wrangler coming in at $33,290.

Besides the base Bronco, there are six other trims, and the prices can climb quite high. The most expensive base price on a Bronco is the four-door First Edition, which rings in at $64,995, and is equipped with every option offered. The two-door version comes in at $60,800. You can see the full range of Bronco pricing listed below.
  • Base
    • Two-door: $29,995
    • Four-door: $34,695
  • Big Bend
    • Two-door: $34,880
    • Four-door: $37,375
  • Black Diamond
    • Two-door: $37,545
    • Four-door: $40,040
  • Outer Banks
    • Two-door: $40,450
    • Four-door: $42,945
  • Badlands
    • Two-door: $43,590
    • Four-door: $46,085
  • Wildtrak
    • Two-door: $50,370
    • Four-door: $52,865
  • First Edition
    • Two-door: $60,800
    • Four-door: $64,995
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^^^^^ Some of those list prices look a little steep, especially on the upper-trim models. With projected demand, though, Ford may only be charging what the market will bear.
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