2021 Ford Bronco and Bronco Sport
08-19-19, 04:41 PM
#46
Lexus Fanatic
I have long debated leaving sedans for an SUV for all the reasons mentioned above and have never been able to do it, but suspect eventually I will.
08-19-19, 05:18 PM
#47
Lexus Champion
Newsflash--GM hardly sells anything without incentives.
I feel pretty comfortable "predicting" that Ford isn't trying to bring back, replicate, or create nostalgia for the Bronco II. If you think that's sticking my neck out, then so be it.
08-19-19, 05:37 PM
#48
Lexus Fanatic
Thread Starter
I at least partially disagree. GM does have a fair number of incentives, but not usually on the latest models. Also, the mods have asked us to stop discussing GM and the Blazer in this thread, so I am going to comply.
Well, unlike some other persons in Car Chat (I won't name names), I try not to be rude. It was not meant to be a barb or comment that you couldn't make a prediction if you wanted......I occasionally do myself. But, if we do, we have to be prepared to stand corrected (as I do) if we turn out to be wrong.
And I've been wrong, more than once. Remember the Plymouth Prowler? I thought it would go over big with WWII vets and Baby Boomers who started the original street-rod craze in the 1950s....no dice, perhaps partly because of fantastic dealer price-gouging. Same with the Chrysler Crossfire and the two-seat 2001 Ford Thunderbird....two beautiful machines. The Crossfire went nowhere.......the T-Bird did at first (also with huge dealer mark-ups), but lasted only a few years before it was dropped.
I feel pretty comfortable "predicting" that Ford isn't trying to bring back, replicate, or create nostalgia for the Bronco II. If you think that's sticking my neck out, then so be it.
And I've been wrong, more than once. Remember the Plymouth Prowler? I thought it would go over big with WWII vets and Baby Boomers who started the original street-rod craze in the 1950s....no dice, perhaps partly because of fantastic dealer price-gouging. Same with the Chrysler Crossfire and the two-seat 2001 Ford Thunderbird....two beautiful machines. The Crossfire went nowhere.......the T-Bird did at first (also with huge dealer mark-ups), but lasted only a few years before it was dropped.
11-01-19, 01:46 PM
#50
Ford Bronco spring premiere / Ford Bronco R prototype post #9
We now have the Bronco’s official new logo, with the familiar bucking horse, albeit slightly pitched forward so it’s kicking higher, and compressed block-letter nameplate. And we’re given a fun video looking at the Bronco’s history as one of the O.G. SUVs, first debuting in 1966 and running until 1996.
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11-01-19, 05:35 PM
#51
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Thread Starter
Originally Posted by article
The spring premiere date technically would qualify it for a reveal at the 2020 North American International Auto Show, which is adopting its new June calendar starting next year. And that would further make sense given that we already know the Bronco is planned to be built alongside the Ranger at Ford’s Michigan Assembly Plant just outside of Detroit. But it also seems like an awfully long time to make people wait, given the excitement about this one.
11-01-19, 05:51 PM
#52
Lexus Fanatic
Since the Detroit Show has been moved up to June, that is simply too long to wait. They need to unveil it at either the L.A. Show late this month, D.C. in late January, Chicago in early February, or, at the very latest, New York in April, although even April, IMO, is later than necessary. Unless there are sound or credible reasons for delaying its unveiling or introduction (such as quality problems in the plant, like we see with the Explorer), then IMO it's time for Ford to p*** or get off the pot.
Ps. You are seriously obsessed with the Bronco. Its nice to see some passion.
11-01-19, 06:29 PM
#53
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Thread Starter
I'm not obsessed with it in the sense you are talking about. I am definitely not one of its target customers....if I were to get a Ford SUV, it would almost certainly be a Lincoln Corsair, after a wait to get teething problems out. But my point is that Ford has been teasing the public with the Bronco for the better part of three years......unless there is a good credible reason for further delays (such as I outlined above), it is time to **** or get off the pot.
I also don't understand the delay considering that Ford has a perfect chance, here, to sock it to GM's failed Blazer, and is not taking it.
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11-02-19, 01:51 AM
#56
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11-04-19, 03:00 PM
#58
Ford Bronco R prototype
Previews production model with race-ready Baja tribute
'Even the twin turbos of the EcoBoost engine are representative of what the production Bronco will offer'
“For the endurance needs of Baja’s 1,000 grueling miles, we built in a limited number of race focused parts. But even the twin turbos of the EcoBoost engine are representative of what the production Bronco will offer,” said Brian Novak, Ford Performance off road racing supervisor.
That means we’re definitely going to be getting a Ford EcoBoost engine with twin turbos in the production Bronco. The 2.7-liter twin-turbo V6 is the obvious answer, but the 3.5-liter twin-turbo V6 is also laying around in Ford’s parts bin.
Also, this thing looks freakin’ awesome. Ford says the Bronco R was developed with heritage-inspired design and proportions to hint at what we’ll see on the production car. So far, so good. The red, white and black livery was designed to throwback to Rod Hall’s and Larry Minor’s 1969 Baja 1000 victory in their Ford Bronco.
“Like the original Bronco, we kept Bronco R’s design authentic and simple, with a roll cage on a production style frame, and a five-piece lightweight body on top,” Novak says.
It has an independent front suspension with a useful 14 inches of travel. The rear suspension is a “production-based” five-link chassis design with up to 18 inches of travel. It gets custom Fox shocks, 17-inch beadlock-capable wheels and 37-inch BF Goodrich tires.
That means we’re definitely going to be getting a Ford EcoBoost engine with twin turbos in the production Bronco. The 2.7-liter twin-turbo V6 is the obvious answer, but the 3.5-liter twin-turbo V6 is also laying around in Ford’s parts bin.
Also, this thing looks freakin’ awesome. Ford says the Bronco R was developed with heritage-inspired design and proportions to hint at what we’ll see on the production car. So far, so good. The red, white and black livery was designed to throwback to Rod Hall’s and Larry Minor’s 1969 Baja 1000 victory in their Ford Bronco.
“Like the original Bronco, we kept Bronco R’s design authentic and simple, with a roll cage on a production style frame, and a five-piece lightweight body on top,” Novak says.
It has an independent front suspension with a useful 14 inches of travel. The rear suspension is a “production-based” five-link chassis design with up to 18 inches of travel. It gets custom Fox shocks, 17-inch beadlock-capable wheels and 37-inch BF Goodrich tires.