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Old 07-15-20, 07:58 PM
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Good article from Autoblog. They confirmed the bigger battery is about 300 miles EPA and the smaller around 200 miles. This thing is going to eat the new iX3 EV for lunch.

https://www.autoblog.com/2020/07/15/...over-revealed/

2022 Nissan Ariya EV crossover revealed with stylish looks and up to 300-mile range

It's just like the concept






Not quite a year ago, Nissan showed its Ariya electric crossover concept with a clean, elegant design inside and out. And as it turns out, the production 2022 Nissan Ariya, just revealed, looks exactly like it. It's also boasting some impressive numbers.

From the outside, the concept and production model are almost indistinguishable. They each feature a smooth, glossy panel at the front in place of a traditional grille, with a textured panel underneath and accent lighting in the badges and running lights descending the edges of the "grille." The same curvy profile and two-tone paint scheme sticks around, and from the side, the only differences are a less well-integrated charger cover and possibly longer overhangs. Even the wheels are the same smooth, minimalist design.
More important, the interior remains basically the same. It's an airy cabin with a minimalist dashboard that features full-length air vent trim and dual 12.3-inch screens for instruments and navigation. The concept's capacitive buttons under the faux wood trim even made it to production, creating a futuristic but warm feeling in the cabin. Nissan also opened up the entire area under the dash by moving climate control equipment under the hood. There's a storage compartment down there as well as a fold-out tray table. Other striking details include a wrap-around line of ambient light at the top of the dash and door panels, a two-spoke steering wheel and backlit door trim.



As cool as the crossover looks, it needs a powertrain to back it up, and Nissan will offer two, each available with two different-size batteries all packaged into a new modular platform that will underpin future Nissan EVs. The entry-level Ariya will have a single motor powering the front wheels and producing 215 horsepower and 221 pound-feet of torque. Above that is the all-wheel-drive model with two motors. This uses the e-4ORCE system we've tried out in Leaf prototypes. In the Ariya, total output will be 389 horsepower and 443 pound-feet of torque. As to why the Ariya's single-motor layout will be front-wheel drive rather than rear-wheel drive as with competitors such as VW, Nissan executives noted that front-drive was selected for the Ariya to provide familiar, friendly handling for drivers who are not as experienced. Additionally, there are packaging conveniences with having all the equipment up front.

As for the batteries, entry-level battery pack is a 63-kWh unit, and an optional 87-kWh unit is available, each mounted in the floor. Nissan has only given a range estimate for the front-drive 87-kWh model, which will go the farthest at approximately 300 miles, and that's based on the EPA test. Based on other EVs with battery packs in the 60- to 65-kWh capacity range, we would expect a front-drive Ariya with the 63-kWh battery to have a range in the low 200-mile region. The Ariya's battery packs will also be liquid-cooled, unlike the air-cooled unit in the Leaf. The all-wheel-drive version won't have as much range as the front-drive version, and it also intrudes on cargo space, shrinking the cargo area from 16.5 cubic feet to 14.6.

Nissan will also offer plenty of technology in the Ariya. It comes standard with wireless Apple CarPlay and Android Auto, as well as Amazon Alexa integration. It will be the first Nissan with over-the-air updating. In addition to the dual screens, it will have a full-color heads-up display. Front and rear automatic emergency braking, lane-departure warning, blind-spot monitoring, rear cross-traffic alert and automatic high-beam headlights are standard, too. The second-generation ProPilot Assist with hands-free single-lane highway driving will be available as an option.

Despite being revealed with many details, we'll be waiting a little while for the Ariya to go on sale. It's slated for late 2021. Pricing will start around $40,000 for the base model, and it should be eligible for a federal tax credit.
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Looks good. But not available for another year? What's up with that Nissan.
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I would get this over whatever Lexus RX is available late 2021, which might be just another refresh on the current platform.

Im assuming that it’s just as reliable as the Leaf and they can fix infotainment glitches OTA without dealer visits.

what is off putting with Tesla are the glitches and hit and miss build quality.

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Originally Posted by F1Driver
Model Y performance at Model 3 prices from what I've been reading. Bye-bye Tesla, it was nice knowing you. Don't let the door hit your bum on the way out!
with tesla's valuation they can buy nissan if it's an issue.
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
with tesla's valuation they can buy nissan if it's an issue.
Don't think Nissan wants to drop its vehicle quality any lower if that did happen.
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Default 2023 Nissan Ariya starts at $47,950

The path to production for the 2023 Nissan Ariya has felt like a long one, but it's well and truly over, as signaled by the fact there's official pricing, and you can now reserve one. Nissan is taking a page from the Hummer EV playbook in only offering a select few combinations to begin with, with additional variations going on sale later.

For now, the entry-level model is the front-wheel-drive Venture+. It starts at $47,950, and although it's the base model, it has the longest range at 300 miles. That comes from the liquid-cooled 87-kWh (usable) battery pack. It has a single electric motor sending 238 horsepower and 221 pound-feet of torque to the front wheels. It comes standard with a CCS port for DC fast charging up to 130 kW, as well. Standard features include LED lighting, 19-inch wheels, manual-adjustable cloth seats, ambient lighting, a 12.3-inch instrument screen, dual-zone automatic climate control, wireless Apple CarPlay and Android Auto, navigation, ProPilot Assist adaptive cruise control and lane-centering and blind-spot monitoring.
Moving up to Evolve+ gets you the exact same powertrain, but range dips to 285 miles. The price also increases to $50,125. In exchange for the extra cash, you get a panoramic sunroof, power hatch, fog lights, power front seats, automatic wipers, wireless phone charging and a rearview mirror screen.Premiere starts at $54,625 and has the same range and power specs as the Evolve+. It includes the hands-free ProPilot Assist 2.0 driving system, similar to GM's Super Cruise and Ford's BlueCruise. It also comes with unique wheel colors and illuminated side sills.

Topping the range is the Platinum+ e-4ORCE with a base price of $60,125. This gets the dual-motor, all-wheel-drive powertrain making 389 horsepower and 442 pound-feet of torque. Range drops to 265 miles for this potent package. It's more lavishly appointed with power-adjustable Nappa leather seats with memory and cooling, power-adjustable mirrors and steering wheel with memory, active noise canceling, a motion-activated power hatch and a Bose 10-speaker sound system.

There will be additional models offered in the near future, some of which will be available with a smaller 63-kWh (usable) battery and 214-horsepower motor. Those will likely carry lower prices. It should be possible to add the high-output all-wheel-drive powertrain to lower trims later, too.

If any of these initial offerings interest you, Nissan is able to take your reservations. The Premiere in particular is only available via reservation. Reservations require a refundable $500 deposit. The first 10,000 people to reserve an Ariya will also get a two-year membership to EVgo with a $500 charging credit. For the time being, Nissans still qualify for the full $7,500 federal EV tax credit, too.

The first Ariyas to be delivered will be the front-wheel-drive versions starting next fall. All-wheel-drive models will follow later that fall.
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Originally Posted by F1Driver
Bye-bye Tesla, it was nice knowing you!

You got that right.
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Old 11-17-21, 07:40 AM
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One interesting point, though. Seems like, regardless of manufacturer, many of the newest crossovers are all looking more or less alike...wide-V-shaped grille, narrow/horizontal slit-headlights, humpback-shaped roofline, and a row of red lights stretching all the way across the hatch-lid. We've seen the almost identical styling now from a number of different manufacturers.
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No surprise there, concern over aerodynamics has dictated the body shape and "EV signaling" everything else. We'll be seeing much different designs one generation from now when automakers don't have to struggle to get ~300mi range out of their batteries.
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Originally Posted by TangoRed
No surprise there, concern over aerodynamics has dictated the body shape and "EV signaling" everything else. We'll be seeing much different designs one generation from now when automakers don't have to struggle to get ~300mi range out of their batteries.

I've noticed the same shape I was speaking of in both new gas and hybrid/BEV crossovers....it is not confined to BEVs by any means.
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
I've noticed the same shape I was speaking of in both new gas and hybrid/BEV crossovers....it is not confined to BEVs by any means.
Can't say I agree then. The ID4, EV6, Model Y, GV60, and Ariya for example are all similar smooth hunched shapes and lower than the typical ICE crossover, which is practically at a minimum 66" tall. The EV crossovers are all an inch or two lower, sometimes more.
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Sorry but looking at the price, the Tesla Model Y is going to eat this thing for lunch on demand and sales. It has more range, is far more powerful and has the Supercharger network access. Also, Tesla brand is far stronger and more aspirational than Nissan's brand. I think the VW ID4 is a more compelling product given its price vs. this at $60k for the AWD version.
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Originally Posted by EZZ
Sorry but looking at the price, the Tesla Model Y is going to eat this thing for lunch on demand and sales. It has more range, is far more powerful and has the Supercharger network access. Also, Tesla brand is far stronger and more aspirational than Nissan's brand. I think the VW ID4 is a more compelling product given its price vs. this at $60k for the AWD version.
I agree. It's priced like an Infiniti. I've been in a pre-production Ariya- it's definitely a bit more upscale feeling than the ID4 and Model Y but this price is hard to swallow.
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This costs more than a Q4 E-Tron? Nissan is out of their minds.
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