My Experience with a Tesla Model Y Performance
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we know teslas are fast. we also know their build quality is crap. not for me yet.
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Originally Posted by patgilm
Besides the Taycan, the other EV options are pretty weak overall IMO.
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I meant besides Tesla, the only other EV worth mentioning is the Taycan. When I said other options, I meant everything else besides these two.
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I drove the Model Y Performance again today for an hour and then drove the Model S Performance for another hour right after.
Didn't take any pics of the Model Y but it definitely confirmed my earlier thoughts on the Model Y vs the Model X. The Model X feels cumbersome to drive and doesn't feel like a luxury car. The Model Y feels solid and is really great to drive. It handles shockingly well and is very well-controlled with sharp steering and a really nice and fat wheel to grip. The interior, while I love the simplicity, I think is a little bit too simple for my tastes. The Model Y feels like a luxury car. I'd say it feels comparable to a C-Class or X3 in how it drives. It has a similar level of solidity and refinement.
And then I drove the Model S Performance with Ludicrous Plus and the Raven suspension. It was nearly brand new with only 200 miles on it. I took some photos and a short video walkaround of it.
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Model S Performance is a fantastic car. I think it's worth every bit of its $110,000 asking price. All of my qualms about the Model X not feeling like a luxury car were not present with Model S, which is surprising as they share the same underpinnings. That said, I really enjoyed my time with it, far more than any of the other Teslas I drove. It blends luxury, speed, handling, and comfort very well and even after all these years, I think it's still an absolutely beautiful car. If there's ever been a car that could make me forget about my GS, I think it's this one.
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Didn't take any pics of the Model Y but it definitely confirmed my earlier thoughts on the Model Y vs the Model X. The Model X feels cumbersome to drive and doesn't feel like a luxury car. The Model Y feels solid and is really great to drive. It handles shockingly well and is very well-controlled with sharp steering and a really nice and fat wheel to grip. The interior, while I love the simplicity, I think is a little bit too simple for my tastes. The Model Y feels like a luxury car. I'd say it feels comparable to a C-Class or X3 in how it drives. It has a similar level of solidity and refinement.
And then I drove the Model S Performance with Ludicrous Plus and the Raven suspension. It was nearly brand new with only 200 miles on it. I took some photos and a short video walkaround of it.
![My Experience with a Tesla Model Y Performance-myhsjlc.jpg](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/attachments/car-chat/487324d1683150260t-my-experience-with-a-tesla-model-y-performance-myhsjlc.jpg)
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Model S Performance is a fantastic car. I think it's worth every bit of its $110,000 asking price. All of my qualms about the Model X not feeling like a luxury car were not present with Model S, which is surprising as they share the same underpinnings. That said, I really enjoyed my time with it, far more than any of the other Teslas I drove. It blends luxury, speed, handling, and comfort very well and even after all these years, I think it's still an absolutely beautiful car. If there's ever been a car that could make me forget about my GS, I think it's this one.
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Model S has beautiful exterior styling, a lovely 17" touchscreen, and a great electric driveline.
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I love everything about the Model S except for the price and the only reason I don’t like the price is because I can get nearly the same experience with a Mode 3 and I just have a hard time paying so much more for a little bit more.
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Originally Posted by patgilm
I love everything about the Model S except for the price and the only reason I don’t like the price is because I can get nearly the same experience with a Mode 3 and I just have a hard time paying so much more for a little bit more.
Taycan's advantage is they built a higher volt system to output the same volts even at lower state of charge. So the output of their battery remains more consistent even with lower remaining battery power.
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Some journalists (albeit the bottom tier ones) complained about it being aged and not exciting enough. The model S is a gorgeous vehicle and still at the cutting edge of beauty IMO
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Sadly I agree that quality is their short fall.. I guess after all its not Rocket Science.
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All they need to do is hire the right Quality Engineers.
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@signdetres That car looks super clean! I'd absolutely rock that spec if I were in the market.
The Straight Pipes just did a video of the X, btw.
The Straight Pipes just did a video of the X, btw.
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The Model 3 has much newer drivetrain technology. The reason it's not as fast is the battery size of the 3 is smaller and the battery can't output as much juice at one time. The Model S was updated with the Model 3 motor in the Raven edition recently because it's much better. The BMS in the 3 is also far better. In the S, you can get 3 or 4 good quarter mile runs before your times go drastically down due to the heat. That's why track laps aren't done with the Model S...too much throttling due to heat after only a few minutes. In the 3, heats not the issue and you can do repeatedly runs without throttling as the BMS keeps the batteries much cooler. That's why the Model 3 can do many laps on the track without power loss. The only reason times get slower is due to the batteries running out vs in the S where heats is a major issue.
Taycan's advantage is they built a higher volt system to output the same volts even at lower state of charge. So the output of their battery remains more consistent even with lower remaining battery power.
Taycan's advantage is they built a higher volt system to output the same volts even at lower state of charge. So the output of their battery remains more consistent even with lower remaining battery power.
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