Ordered a new Encore GX today.
10-27-20, 05:54 AM
#151
Lexus Champion
Absolutely. GM has trained its customers to seek/obtain significant discounts so that they feel they've gotten a "deal" and now it's nearly impossible to wean those customers off that juice. So they'll continue to place MSRPs that have no basis in reality or competitive positioning, because they know that they'll mark it off a minimum of 10% with most of them transacting at 20% or more off that sticker price.
10-27-20, 06:25 AM
#152
Lexus Champion
Absolutely. GM has trained its customers to seek/obtain significant discounts so that they feel they've gotten a "deal" and now it's nearly impossible to wean those customers off that juice. So they'll continue to place MSRPs that have no basis in reality or competitive positioning, because they know that they'll mark it off a minimum of 10% with most of them transacting at 20% or more off that sticker price.
They've never recovered from that.
10-27-20, 06:44 AM
#153
Lexus Champion
The larger Chevy Blazer seems to be the success story for GM. In the 3rd quarter (July-Sept) GM sold 29.5k Blazers vs. 10.3k Trailblazers. Year to date 71.4k vs. 17k. Maybe the Trailblazer issue is inventory/import related but the dealers are moving a lot more Blazers these days.
10-27-20, 07:01 AM
#154
Lexus Fanatic
The larger Chevy Blazer seems to be the success story for GM. In the 3rd quarter (July-Sept) GM sold 29.5k Blazers vs. 10.3k Trailblazers. Year to date 71.4k vs. 17k. Maybe the Trailblazer issue is inventory/import related but the dealers are moving a lot more Blazers these days.
US also has some import tariffs for South Korean goods that the consumer would pay extra for which eats into the value....no so for South Korean cars imported to Canada or Mexican made Blazers to the US.
10-27-20, 07:17 AM
#156
Lexus Fanatic
Thread Starter
JC Penny did the same thing years ago. A new CEO decided to do away with coupon specials and many markdowns, and go with an every day low price strategy. It was a disaster, and that CEO didn't make it that long. Customers had gotten so used to coupon discounts, they couldn't see that the effective price was the same.
They've never recovered from that.
They've never recovered from that.
10-27-20, 07:24 AM
#157
Lexus Fanatic
Thread Starter
Yes, that's part of it....particularly for base models. But it's not just the fact that it's low-priced. You can get low-priced vehicles at a number of places.....particularly at what few Mitsubishi dealerships are left. With the Trailblazer, it is what you get for the money. With the TB (and Encore GX) GM is abandoning its former policy of either not offering a number of safety/convienience features or making you pay extra for them. Several of them come standard even on the base version....and many people are looking at that, and not the fact that the powerplants could use another cylinder. GM is finally including a standard button (which people wanted several years ago) to by-pass the annoying start/stop system......and a button to disconnect the AWD system if it is not needed, for better fuel economy.
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10-27-20, 07:31 AM
#158
Lexus Fanatic
No, the vehicle is popular because its cheap and cool looking. If it were more expensive it wouldn't sell.
Buyers don't think about a vehicle as in depth as you think they do. They don't think about auto start stop buttons etc
Buyers don't think about a vehicle as in depth as you think they do. They don't think about auto start stop buttons etc
10-27-20, 07:49 AM
#159
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Thread Starter
Buyers don't think about a vehicle as in depth as you think they do. They don't think about auto start stop buttons etc
10-27-20, 08:18 AM
#160
Lexus Fanatic
People aren't buying cars because they do or don't have buttons for the auto start/stop. The vast majority of people find a car they think is attractive, do a little research into its reliability, look and the price and choose. Or they just buy what they've always bought, be that a Toyota, Honda, Chevy, etc. They only discover things like that after they've bought the car.
If you look at dealer lots for the TrailBlazer that will also show you people aren't buying them for bright colors. They stock the same array of colors that they do for any other car. People like white, silver and grey cars.
Again theres what YOU like, and what the average buyer likes.
If you look at dealer lots for the TrailBlazer that will also show you people aren't buying them for bright colors. They stock the same array of colors that they do for any other car. People like white, silver and grey cars.
Again theres what YOU like, and what the average buyer likes.
10-27-20, 08:26 AM
#162
Lexus Fanatic
Thread Starter
People aren't buying cars because they do or don't have buttons for the auto start/stop. The vast majority of people find a car they think is attractive, do a little research into its reliability, look and the price and choose. Or they just buy what they've always bought, be that a Toyota, Honda, Chevy, etc. They only discover things like that after they've bought the car.
If you look at dealer lots for the TrailBlazer that will also show you people aren't buying them for bright colors. They stock the same array of colors that they do for any other car. People like white, silver and grey cars.
Again theres what YOU like, and what the average buyer likes.
If you look at dealer lots for the TrailBlazer that will also show you people aren't buying them for bright colors. They stock the same array of colors that they do for any other car. People like white, silver and grey cars.
Again theres what YOU like, and what the average buyer likes.
https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a1...s-temporarily/
When Buick launched the 2019 Envision last month, the brand said a decision to add an Off switch to its stop/start engine technology was “driven by customer feedback.”
10-27-20, 08:31 AM
#163
Lexus Fanatic
Sure, customer feedback. People who owned the car and preferred a button to turn it off. That doesnt mean people are deciding whether or not to buy a car because of that button.
10-27-20, 08:31 AM
#164
Lexus Fanatic