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Old 07-01-20, 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by RNM GS3
Sad they couldn’t make it V8 still.

Hopefully it will sound decent.
a good sounding twin turbo V6 doesn't seem to exist... they all just make a humming noise

the old F136 V8 with a crossplane crankshaft on the other hand is certainly one of the all time great sounding engines, particularly in the alfa 8C

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End is near for V8's with power numbers like this from factory cars. Sheesh. I trust this will sound decent for what it is.
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Originally Posted by geko29
The article does say that because it's a 90-degree, this could be the first step towards a 4.0L V8. If they didn't care about leaving themselves that option, they almost certainly would have gone with a 60-degree.
Would love to see/hear a small(ish) rev-happy V8 again someday...
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Originally Posted by geko29
The article does say that because it's a 90-degree, this could be the first step towards a 4.0L V8. If they didn't care about leaving themselves that option, they almost certainly would have gone with a 60-degree.
That's why I brought it up, because it would have been nice for the source to try to figure out that information rather than just provide some wild speculation.

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For those less mechanically inclined, what's the level of effort needed to bolt on another 2 cylinders? Is it fairly straightforward or would it require a significant amount of rework?
Modular with respect to automotive engines doesn't typically refer to the ability to add/remove cylinders in some modular fashion, but instead refers to the manufacturing process and specifically the machines/tools used on the production line. Almost certainly a different block will be used for a V6 versus a V8 (although Jaguar [in]famously has used the same block for a V6 and V8), but with everything else being the same (bore/stroke, spacing, bank angle, etc.) then the reconfiguration needed to change a production line between V6 and V8 is minimal. This flexibility, as well as being able to produce both under the same roof, saves huge capital costs.

Of course, given a 90-degree bank angle, you'd certainly want to design the V8 first and be sure that you're going to actually produce one, because if you don't, then there's no cost saving.

At the same time, with Maserati we are talking about a car company that IIRC in the 70s created a 90-degree V8 from a 90-degree V6 by splitting V6 engines and welding them together (splicing 2 V6s at 5/6 and one V6 at 1/2 to make 2 V8s). For a production engine. Used in production cars. No, I'm not kidding.
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Originally Posted by gengar
Modular with respect to automotive engines doesn't typically refer to the ability to add/remove cylinders in some modular fashion, but instead refers to the manufacturing process and specifically the machines/tools used on the production line. Almost certainly a different block will be used for a V6 versus a V8 (although Jaguar [in]famously has used the same block for a V6 and V8), but with everything else being the same (bore/stroke, spacing, bank angle, etc.) then the reconfiguration needed to change a production line between V6 and V8 is minimal. This flexibility, as well as being able to produce both under the same roof, saves huge capital costs.

Of course, given a 90-degree bank angle, you'd certainly want to design the V8 first and be sure that you're going to actually produce one, because if you don't, then there's no cost saving.

At the same time, with Maserati we are talking about a car company that IIRC in the 70s created a 90-degree V8 from a 90-degree V6 by splitting V6 engines and welding them together (splicing 2 V6s at 5/6 and one V6 at 1/2 to make 2 V8s). For a production engine. Used in production cars. No, I'm not kidding.
Awesome, thanks for the explanation!
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Originally Posted by GFerg
End is near for V8's with power numbers like this from factory cars. Sheesh. I trust this will sound decent for what it is.
New Z06 coming with over 600hp in NA 5.5L V8.

But i agree the V8 era is close to extinction.
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Originally Posted by Allen K
For those less mechanically inclined, what's the level of effort needed to bolt on another 2 cylinders? Is it fairly straightforward or would it require a significant amount of rework?
I don't think you can just bolt 2 extra cylinders on a engine because it would be so prone to leaking where you added the two cylinders and would have other issues, pretty sure you have to cast the entire block to fit 2 extra cylinders so the block would be larger on a V8 then a V6. It would be much easier to cut two cylinders off on a V8 or V6 but you still have to seal them or basically cast the block for a smaller engine.

I don't know why they came out with this new V6, people who buy Maserati's generally want V8's, not another V6, they should have gone with a inline 6 if they were doing a 6 cylinder. I would be much more nervous owning a 3.0l 6 cylinder turbo making 640hp by Masserati then a 4.0 V8 making 640hp by Masserati, I don't think this is going to be a very reliable engine pushing so much power from such little displacement.
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Originally Posted by RNM GS3
New Z06 coming with over 600hp in NA 5.5L V8.

But i agree the V8 era is close to extinction.
I don't see that, I think V8's are going to be around for a while.
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Default Here's The 2021 Maserati MC20 Before You're Supposed To See It

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Ahead of its official public debut on Wednesday, presumed official photographs of Maserati’s new MC20 supercar have leaked out onto the internet, as near as we can tell sourced from autotimesnews.com. This new mid-engine flagship is said to be constructed of a combination of aluminum and composites. The V6-engined coupe is said to weigh in the neighborhood of 3240 pounds.

With butterfly doors, a 630 horsepower three-liter turbocharged V6, and a “push-button controlled” 8-speed transmission, this thing has all of the trappings of a supercar. It certainly looks the part. Allegedly acceleration is quite capable with a 0-60 in the 2.9 second range, and a 0-120 sprint happening in 8.0 seconds. It’ll top out just across the legendary 200 mile per hour mark.

According to the leaked information, which has not yet been confirmed to be true though we have suspected for quite a while, the MC20 will also be available with an electric drivetrain that cuts the 0-60 time down to 2.8 seconds, and will be able to travel around 240 miles on a single charge of the batteries.

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The specs are there, but the exterior is very disappointing. Doesn't captivate me the way a Maserati is supposed to IMO
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that's a pretty damn beautiful car!

the side profile is almost just a bit reminiscent of a bmw i8.
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nice. I'll wait till it depreciates 75% in 4 years to buy one.
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Originally Posted by Hoovey2411
The specs are there, but the exterior is very disappointing. Doesn't captivate me the way a Maserati is supposed to IMO

maserati's entire lineup is pretty ugly, so this is a good change
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