Mazda6 diesels leave Europe; 2.2L Skyactiv diesel approved in U.S.
01-14-21, 11:55 AM
#16
Mazda's long diesel saga is over. The company confirmed to C/D that it is dropping the Skyactiv-D turbodiesel from its U.S. lineup due to low consumer demand, meaning that this engine will no longer be offered in the CX-5 crossover. Plans for the Mazda 6 Skyactiv-D have also been dropped.
well, here's to hoping their upcoming I6 has better success 
01-14-21, 02:43 PM
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Lexus Test Driver
Originally Posted by Motorola
Everytime I'm concerned about the future of Lexus, the back of my mind always goes "At least it's not as bad as Mazda."
01-14-21, 03:29 PM
#18
Typical Mazda- staying relevant to enthusiasts via jank rumors of promises that never come to fruition 95% of the time, when most of the actual news surrounding their product line has more to do with cancellations and financial woes.
01-14-21, 03:33 PM
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01-14-21, 03:49 PM
#20
Whoever has been in charge of Mazda's product planning needs to be fired. By the time their inline 6 makes it into production 5 years from now, almost every manufacturer will have already moved on to electrification and more aggressive hybridization in order to cope with the 2030 ICE bans. It'll be another repeat of how poorly they handled turbos and diesels after years of teasing, as seen in this thread.
Toyota can afford to be slow with their powertrain development because they're one of the most powerful car companies in the world with enormous budgets and a loyal large customer base. Mazda has none of those luxuries.
Toyota can afford to be slow with their powertrain development because they're one of the most powerful car companies in the world with enormous budgets and a loyal large customer base. Mazda has none of those luxuries.
01-14-21, 03:50 PM
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Lexus Fanatic
Whoever has been in charge of Mazda's product planning needs to be fired. By the time their inline 6 makes it into production 5 years from now, almost every manufacturer will have already moved on to electrification and more aggressive hybridization in order to cope with the ICE bans. It'll be another repeat of how they handled turbos and diesels, as seen in this thread.
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01-14-21, 08:00 PM
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Lexus Fanatic
Thread Starter
Not everyone is ready to jump on the BEV bandwagon. A Mazda sedan with an in-line six, and Mazda's reputation for good driver-dynamics, might potentially sway a good-sized potential crowd that is not impressed with BMW's recent products.
01-14-21, 08:05 PM
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Lexus Fanatic
01-14-21, 08:35 PM
#25
Lexus Fanatic
Thread Starter
I'm not quite sure what you re getting at, for two reasons.
First, as far as "Examples" go, the new Mazda in-line 6 is not even in production yet.....it won't be here in the American market until the 2022 models. Second, the fact that the industry (as you note) does not offer much of that type of engine south of 40K should only make it that much more attractive in the next-generation RWD Mazdas. A number of years ago (I don't know if you remember that vehicle......Suzuki attempted to market an updated version here of the large Daewoo Leganza sedan, called the Verona, using a transverse inline six and FWD. Because of the necessity of it being crammed in sideways, along with the transmission, it was admittedly a quite small in-line 6, and did not produce much power. Volvo also used a transverse in-line six on the former S80 (with a different transmission-configuration to make more room), but I don't know very much about it, and don't remember ever test-driving one. The next-generation Mazda 6, with a longitudinal-engine-configuration and RWD, will not have those front-end space-limitations that the S80 and Verona did, and will allow a larger engine-block.
01-15-21, 07:54 AM
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Europe is slowly getting rid of the idea of tiny blocks, due to their attrocious nox numbers. The new Euro 7 norm, will have a good place for in-between displacements. We are probably going in a time of medium sized inline 6's again. Like the ones of my youth, where 2.4, 2.8, 3 and slightly bigger inline 6 where the top of the cake on the road.
01-27-21, 07:11 AM
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Lexus Fanatic
Thread Starter
Mazda pulls diesel from U.S. market.
https://www.motor1.com/news/466347/m...continued-usa/
Source: Cars Direct
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In Case You Hadn't Heard, The Mazda CX-5 Diesel Is Officially Dead
Skyactiv-D, we hardly knew ye.
The writing had been on the wall for a long time, and now Mazda has officially confirmed the CX-5’s diesel engine is no more in the United States. It will continue elsewhere, but company spokesperson Justin Pagtalunan told Cars Direct that “after evaluating consumer demand, Mazda will no longer offer the Skyactiv-D diesel engine in the US market."
Originally introduced for the SUV’s 2019 model year, the 2.2-liter engine equipped with two turbochargers developed 168 horsepower (125 kilowatts) and 290 pound-feet (393 Newton-meters) of torque. Fitted with the SkyActiv-D, the CX-5 could return 27 mpg city and 30 mpg highway, resulting in a combined rating of 28 mpg.
Originally introduced for the SUV’s 2019 model year, the 2.2-liter engine equipped with two turbochargers developed 168 horsepower (125 kilowatts) and 290 pound-feet (393 Newton-meters) of torque. Fitted with the SkyActiv-D, the CX-5 could return 27 mpg city and 30 mpg highway, resulting in a combined rating of 28 mpg.
While it was the thriftiest of the bunch, it was also the most expensive since it was only offered for the range-topping CX-5 Signature AWD. You had to pay $42,045 including destination charges, thus making it a rather tough sell in a highly competitive market. There was a hidden $10,000 discount at one point, but it likely didn’t move the needle enough.
Mazda apparently has big plans for the next-generation CX-5, which if reports are to be believed, it will switch to the CX-50 moniker. A more important change could be the yet-to-be-confirmed adoption of a newly developed rear-wheel-drive platform, complete with inline-six engines in both gasoline and diesel flavors.
What Does The Future Have In Store For The CX-5? New Mazda CX-5 To Go Premium, Gain Six-Cylinder Engines: Report
Next-Gen Mazda CX-5 Could Be Called The CX-50The Zoom-Zoom company confirmed inline-six engines and a new platform for RWD vehicles in an investor report from March 2019, but it’s unclear at this point which models will switch to the new hardware. The CX-50 seems like an obvious candidate, as does the next Mazda6, which would allow the Japanese brand to move upmarket and better compete with the larger luxury brands.
Meanwhile, the diesel’s demise from the US-spec CX-50 won’t be missed seeing as how this frugal version was short-lived in North America anyway.
Mazda apparently has big plans for the next-generation CX-5, which if reports are to be believed, it will switch to the CX-50 moniker. A more important change could be the yet-to-be-confirmed adoption of a newly developed rear-wheel-drive platform, complete with inline-six engines in both gasoline and diesel flavors.
What Does The Future Have In Store For The CX-5? New Mazda CX-5 To Go Premium, Gain Six-Cylinder Engines: Report
Next-Gen Mazda CX-5 Could Be Called The CX-50The Zoom-Zoom company confirmed inline-six engines and a new platform for RWD vehicles in an investor report from March 2019, but it’s unclear at this point which models will switch to the new hardware. The CX-50 seems like an obvious candidate, as does the next Mazda6, which would allow the Japanese brand to move upmarket and better compete with the larger luxury brands.
Meanwhile, the diesel’s demise from the US-spec CX-50 won’t be missed seeing as how this frugal version was short-lived in North America anyway.
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01-27-21, 07:14 AM
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Not much demand in the US for diesels
01-27-21, 08:12 AM
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01-27-21, 08:41 AM
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