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Old 10-18-20 | 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
I use it all over my car about once a year or so...but I agree that it's not designed for a whole car to be quickly done in just a few minutes...you have to go over it by hand, panel-by-panel.
And there are far more efficient and effective ways to do that than to use Scratch Out by hand. You shouldnt be using it over the whole car, its designed for spot use.
Old 10-18-20 | 08:02 AM
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There is no way in hell I am doing scratch out or any of this by myself. I'm not that passionate, but moreover I have zero experience with this type of work and I wouldn't want to screw it up even more. I'll just take it to a detail shop and let them have at it.
Old 10-18-20 | 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
The way I see it, you can buy expensive packages, or you can simply spend $4-6 on a bottle of Scratch-Out.
it's not designed for doing whole cars, just a scratch here or there. And one of those $4-6 bottle almost certainly isn't enough for a whole car anyway.

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There is no way in hell I am doing scratch out or any of this by myself. I'm not that passionate, but moreover I have zero experience with this type of work and I wouldn't want to screw it up even more. I'll just take it to a detail shop and let them have at it.


totally with you. I've got better things to do than spend HOURS on detailing plus buying all those (mostly snake oil) products, just to have a super shiny car.
Old 10-18-20 | 08:23 AM
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So I have always enjoyed detailing, but as I have aged and have more demands on my time, "detailing" has become different.

1. I hate washing cars. I always have. The mess, the fuss, hauling out hoses and trying to dry before water spotting, just not for me. Thats why I use carwashes.

2. I don't like polishing cars. I have all the tools and I have the ability, I just don't like it.

But, I do like using chemicals and sprays and coatings and things like that. I like cleaning interiors and vacuumung and such. I do a little detailing pretty much every day.

So what I do is I run it through the carwash and then I bring it back and use spray products and all to finish them off perfect. Works for me.
Old 10-18-20 | 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
The way I see it, you can buy expensive packages, or you can simply spend $4-6 on a bottle of Scratch-Out.
Scratchout would not be a good product for Och having scratches and swirls on the entire car. Scratchout is in a small bottle meant for small spots and is basically a pretty mild polish meant to be applied by hand, not machine. Och's car needs a full machine polish of the entire car with something more aggressive and better then scratchout. Most polishes come in pretty large bottles because you tend to use a lot when you polish cars so in many cases buying several bottles of scratchout to get the same amount in 1 regular polish bottle would be more expensive.

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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
it's not designed for doing whole cars, just a scratch here or there. And one of those $4-6 bottle almost certainly isn't enough for a whole car anyway.
Handles my Lacrosse easily....and it is no compact.





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Originally Posted by mmarshall
Handles my Lacrosse easily....and it is no compact.
Do you use a wax or quick detailer etc. after the Scratch Out?
Old 10-18-20 | 11:56 AM
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To get equal results by hand vs. machine polish it will take at least 10x as long.
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Dumb question, is there a way to conceal these without doing the polish? Perhaps applying some sort of wax that fills the scratches or something to that effect?
Old 10-18-20 | 02:38 PM
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Yes, but it wont last long. You can use a glaze, that will fill them in but you'll have to do it every wash or every other wash. The dealer does that all the time, thats likely what happened already. You washed the glaze away and could see the swirls

Best thing to do is have someone polish it out, and coat it and then have it washed well by a reputable wash which should be no problem to find in NYC.
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Originally Posted by LexBob2
Do you use a wax or quick detailer etc. after the Scratch Out?

In most cases, you don't need wax after the Scratch-Out application. Though it is not wax itself (and will actually remove wax when applied), it leaves a very smooth, slick, polished surface, which will bead up water for some time....and it actually feels like it was waxed. Of course, if desired, you can add a coat of wax on top of it.....but I've never needed to.

It's good stuff, folks....I wouldn't spend the time I do talking about it (as I have for years) if it wasn't.
Old 10-18-20 | 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
In most cases, you don't need wax after the Scratch-Out application. Though it is not wax itself (and will actually remove wax when applied), it leaves a very smooth, slick, polished surface, which will bead up water for some time....and it actually feels like it was waxed. Of course, if desired, you can add a coat of wax on top of it.....but I've never needed to.

It's good stuff, folks....I wouldn't spend the time I do talking about it (as I have for years) if it wasn't.
The Scratch-Out leaves behind no protection, you need something over top of it to provide the paint some protection from fallout, bird droppings, etc. The car will stay a lot cleaner with some sort of protection on top of it also.

Its a good product, but it has a specific use and the uses your describing are not what its designed for.
Old 10-18-20 | 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
In most cases, you don't need wax after the Scratch-Out application. Though it is not wax itself (and will actually remove wax when applied), it leaves a very smooth, slick, polished surface, which will bead up water for some time....and it actually feels like it was waxed. Of course, if desired, you can add a coat of wax on top of it.....but I've never needed to.

It's good stuff, folks....I wouldn't spend the time I do talking about it (as I have for years) if it wasn't.
Scratch-Out is ok for small areas but isn’t a replacement for true paint correction. If Och really wants to get his paint back to perfect he really needs to have a full paint correction done vs a little band aid.
Old 10-18-20 | 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Och
Dumb question, is there a way to conceal these without doing the polish? Perhaps applying some sort of wax that fills the scratches or something to that effect?
All waxes fill spider-web scratches like the ones you showed in the OP. After washing and drying, one can apply spray wax in under an hour. I do this after every wash.
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A spray wax wont fill as much as a glaze will



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