Toyota adds 1.5M vehicles (including Lexus) to US recall for engine stalling

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10-31-20, 06:54 AM

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Denso WAS a trusted company. As with the Takata air-bags, this mis-step will certainly take its toll on the company's good name. In hindsight, Denso should have used the higher-density plastic impellers from the start. They likely saved a few hundred thousand in cost using the low-density impellers, but it will now cost them (us) hundreds of millions to replace the failure-prone pumps during the recall.
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Could be anything. My guess is that is a supplier issue as this is affecting models at so many different plants worldwide. so it can't be a assembly issue.

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I've seen this with construction plans for buildings. The value engineers find ways to cut cost in the design phase, and then, during construction, the builder/owner pays many times those cost to work around the problems caused by the value engineering cuts.

Every company does this.

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10-31-20, 12:57 PM

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why does my favorite car company have to keep disappointing me like this... i'm happy i don't sell them anymore, it was tough at times to try and stand behind something when you know that same company used to make far superior products

10-31-20, 12:59 PM

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Wish they covered the 2010 LS. I want a free fuel pump

i got not only new free fuel pumps but an entire new free fuel tank from mercedes

15 year factory extended warranty ftw!! and there's a 25 year warranty on the SBC pump that operates the brakes

10-31-20, 01:15 PM

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Thread title greatly under sells the recall, so far it is 5.84 million vehicles.

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Reminder to everyone though: recalls don't equate reliability.

How so? In this case the pump is not reliable and is being recalled as a result.

10-31-20, 01:38 PM

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Wow, disturbing amount of vehicles.

10-31-20, 03:05 PM

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How so? In this case the pump is not reliable and is being recalled as a result.

Because reliability is based on widespread issues that can be documented by hundreds of people in assessments like Consumer Reports, recalls are preventative measures based on a handful of issues reported by a handful of people that the manufacture feels is important enough to take action. In this case, because it's a potentially lethal issue, Toyota has no choice but to issue a recall. Most people driving their 2013-2020 Toyotas and Lexuses aren't going to have their engines suddenly stall.

10-31-20, 03:29 PM

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Most people driving their 2013-2020 Toyotas and Lexuses aren't going to have their engines suddenly stall.

Most could mean 50.1%.

10-31-20, 03:31 PM

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Most could mean 50.1%.

They've have up to 7 years to see if they have the problem, and I've yet to see it appear as a widespread issue on Consumer Reports.

10-31-20, 05:03 PM

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They've have up to 7 years to see if they have the problem, and I've yet to see it appear as a widespread issue on Consumer Reports.

I doubt its much of a reliability issue...just a safety issue. It will be expensive though. Its okay...Toyota can afford it. They saved money by killing all V8 development