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Old 10-31-20, 01:27 PM
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Pretty good chance I’ll be buying this “hearse” (as my wife calls it). It’s the ‘18 Preferred trim w/14k miles. Found it at a CDJR dealer where my friend is the used car director. Price is good, and he’s literally giving me retail on my old and beat up Tundra.
The previous owner had leather/leatherette installed.
I wish it was the Essence trim, but good luck finding one in these crazy times.
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2020 hasn't been THAT bad. lol.
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Originally Posted by stasek


Pretty good chance I’ll be buying this “hearse” (as my wife calls it). It’s the ‘18 Preferred trim w/14k miles. Found it at a CDJR dealer where my friend is the used car director. Price is good, and he’s literally giving me retail on my old and beat up Tundra.
The previous owner had leather/leatherette installed.
I wish it was the Essence trim, but good luck finding one in these crazy times.

Very nice. I have always liked that car from GM
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If you spring for it, welcome to the world of the Tri-Shield. I think you will find it considerably less worthy of scorn than the image some naive persons have painted.

That's not a traditional American-designed Buick, BTW...it is a rebadged-version of the Euro-market Opel Insignia Wagon, with some minor Buick touches and perhaps some extra Buick Quiet-Tuning sound-insulation.

Respectfully, I disagree with your wife. It is not a hearse, but a well-rounded, versatile, mid-sized wagon with the added benefit/security of AWD.

And, with the demise of Buick-branded passenger cars in the U.S., you could wind up with a classic one day if well-cared for.

Here's the Opel version sold in Europe....you can see the remarkable similarity:







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Enjoy! I've owned and enjoyed wagons in the past.

Wagons are, IMO, much better vehicles for most people's everyday usage than the generic SUV/CUV that they are more likely to buy. As are minivans, for that matter.


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Originally Posted by swajames
Enjoy! I've owned and enjoyed wagons in the past.

Wagons are, IMO, much better vehicles for most people's everyday usage than the generic SUV/CUV that they are more likely to buy. As are minivans, for that matter.
Agree! I’ve always been a fan of wagons - almost bought the VW Jetta Sportwagen TDI back in 2012 (wound up getting the regular Jetta TDI).
As of now, the pickings are rather slim - the typical Germans are way more than I want to spend (at least when new), and we all know how adventurous used BMWs/MBs can be when out of warranty. The new Volvos are nice, but again - pricey!
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My biggest concern right now is the wind noise coming from the panoramic sunroof. It’s REALLY bad - to the point that I was checking the windows and sunroof controls to make sure everything was closed properly. The car does have roof racks, which does appear to be the culprit, but until the racks are removed (they don’t have the “key” for the Buick/Thule racks), I’d be hesitant to pull the trigger.
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Originally Posted by stasek
My biggest concern right now is the wind noise coming from the panoramic sunroof. It’s REALLY bad - to the point that I was checking the windows and sunroof controls to make sure everything was closed properly. The car does have roof racks, which does appear to be the culprit, but until the racks are removed (they don’t have the “key” for the Buick/Thule racks), I’d be hesitant to pull the trigger.
You're probably right about the roof rack being the culprit. It's a big one that sticks up pretty high. Seems like it should fix the noise problem.
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Originally Posted by stasek
My biggest concern right now is the wind noise coming from the panoramic sunroof. It’s REALLY bad - to the point that I was checking the windows and sunroof controls to make sure everything was closed properly. The car does have roof racks, which does appear to be the culprit, but until the racks are removed (they don’t have the “key” for the Buick/Thule racks), I’d be hesitant to pull the trigger.

Roof racks can indeed cause wind noise. I remember that being a problem on some versions of the former Subaru Outback Sport.
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Originally Posted by stasek
My biggest concern right now is the wind noise coming from the panoramic sunroof. It’s REALLY bad - to the point that I was checking the windows and sunroof controls to make sure everything was closed properly. The car does have roof racks, which does appear to be the culprit, but until the racks are removed (they don’t have the “key” for the Buick/Thule racks), I’d be hesitant to pull the trigger.
looks like an aftermarket huge roof rack too, and kinda fugly... sorry.

yes, once you can drive it with it taken off you'll have your answer.
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
looks like an aftermarket huge roof rack too, and kinda fugly... sorry.

yes, once you can drive it with it taken off you'll have your answer.
The roof rack actually has Buick and Thule markings on it, but the problem remains - need tot take it off to verify it’s causing the wind noise. Or... I just buy it and bug the Buick dealer for fix.... decisions, decisions...
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When first glancing at the pic on my phone I thought it was a Volvo. Had no idea it was a Buick. Lol. Looks pretty good. 👍
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Originally Posted by 98sscamaro
When first glancing at the pic on my phone I thought it was a Volvo. Had no idea it was a Buick. Lol. Looks pretty good. 👍

It's actually a rebadged Opel-designed Insignia Grand Tourer.
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Old 11-01-20, 06:01 AM
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You are getting what it seems a made in Germany Opel Insignia. Opel has a good image in Europe; the brand is perceived as a bit more bland than BMW/Audi/Mercedes but it is seen being reliable and solid. Too bad the Regal has been discontinued in Canada.
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