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Old 04-27-22 | 06:08 PM
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LOL. Toyota literally just lost a massive class-action lawsuit in Austrailia for faulty engine filters.

Toyota class-action bill could reach $2b over impacted Hilux, Fortuner and Prado vehicles

Class action lawsuits and recalls amount to nothing when it comes to reliability. There's a reason the Koreans still top all reliability surveys.

I also bet this lawsuit gets thrown out of court like the GM one.
Oh really? So if my 2016 Kia Optima that has 55k miles has a major oil-burning problem that the company fails to do anything about other than a "software update", that isn't a reliability issue?

Old 04-27-22 | 06:09 PM
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Unsurprising, I've replaced many engines for this brand plus Kia and most of my customers who have these engine have had it beaten into their heads to check the oil at every fuel stop.

I'll be letting 4 of them know they may be getting compensation for their engines since they all use about 3-4qts in 2000 miles.

You gotta be kidding. I've never heard of such a thing.
Old 04-27-22 | 06:15 PM
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They are not the only ones with oil consumption, a lot of modern motors suffer from oil consumption and gas dilution.
That is not the issue. The issue is that Hyundai or KIA cars don’t tell you when you are low or out of oil. My friend and her forte, it burned all the oil, never warned. Lucky the car didn’t light on fire.
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The JD Powers? Yeah, good one. Everyone knows that's a fraud.

No company is perfect of course, but when there is a major problem Toyota generally takes care of it. GM and Kia are a joke.
Why, because Scotty Kilmer told you so? lol

JD Power, Consumer Reports, the list goes on. Class Action Lawsuits happen to every brand, and most get thrown out. They're no substitute for actual attempts to collect data.

Oh really? So if my 2016 Kia Optima that has 55k miles has a major oil-burning problem that the company fails to do anything about other than a "software update", that isn't a reliability issue?
Use the warranty and get it fixed like every other car brand. If one dealership can't get it fixed, then go to another one.

Unless that problem actively shows up in a reliability survey, it's nothing more than a one-off.
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Originally Posted by Motorola
, it's nothing more than a one-off.
Hyundai/Kia Recalls for fire are not one off. It’s wide spread. All over the place. Their gas cars are recalled, their EVs were recalled. Just recently their hydrogen fuel cells got recalled.



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Motorola, drop the whataboutism bringing Toyota into this thread please.
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
That is not the issue. The issue is that Hyundai or KIA cars don’t tell you when you are low or out of oil. My friend and her forte, it burned all the oil, never warned. Lucky the car didn’t light on fire.
Not very long ago, most cars did not tell you when you were low or out of oil.
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Not very long ago, most cars did not tell you when you were low or out of oil.
I am not sure about that. I know my matrix burns oil. But the light tells us…so from what I get when a car gets super low on oil, something needs to warn the driver. It more low oil pressure type of warning.. my friends Forte, no warning what so ever…the one day..seized
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
Hyundai/Kia Recalls for fire are not one off. It’s wide spread. All over the place. Their gas cars are recalled, their EVs were recalled. Just recently their hydrogen fuel cells got recalled.
Thanks for proving my point lol. One hydrogen car catches on fire and they recall them all. Literally the definition of one-off.

Recalls are proactive measures initiated by the manufacturer, actual widespread incidents are measured by reliability assessments.
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I've known lots of people with various Kia/Hyundai models take them in, hoping to get the problem resolved. They just never fix them right.
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Originally Posted by xjokerz
I've known lots of people with various Kia/Hyundai models take them in, hoping to get the problem resolved. They just never fix them right.
Just because you "know lots of people" doesn't mean that translates to actual widespread reliability issues. Statistics trumps anecdotes.
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I know many people with Hyundai/Kia vehicles, some that are getting pretty old and they've never had any serious issues. Oil consumption is a problem with a great many direct injected engines.

This would not dissuade me from buying another Hyundai/Kia product
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The one thing that can be universally agreed upon is that Hyundai/Kia dealerships are literally the worst. That's actually supported by data.



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Originally Posted by SW17LS
I know many people with Hyundai/Kia vehicles, some that are getting pretty old and they've never had any serious issues. Oil consumption is a problem with a great many direct injected engines.

This would not dissuade me from buying another Hyundai/Kia product
Old to you is 4 or 5 years old. You'd get a new K5, put 30k miles on it in 3 years and get rid of it.

Most buyers want their cars much longer with many more miles.
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Originally Posted by Motorola
The one thing that can be universally agreed upon is that Hyundai/Kia dealerships are literally the worst. That's actually supported by data.

Probably part of that is because they can't fix the vehicles properly.



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